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[Silindor-Blue-Wolfrayet]

Now..something about the Balrog..1st..he has a very short time duration..2nd..he is too weak..it's not logical..summoning one of the most fearful creature in middle earth..and watching it beeing killed by some arrows..i summoned him..i waited to do a huge damage to the base..and he was defeated by the arrows which where throwed by the structures around him..

[Silindor-Blue-Wolfrayet]

3rd..too small....

[Thorin IV]

Definetly make the balrog ALOT harder to kill (Not for Gandalf though he struggles enough in the campaign)

[Devon]

How to own with the Balrog


Granted, not quite the same as RJ, but still.


Though yeah, he should be more resistant to standard arrows and stuff. Magic however, should be his biggest vulnerability.

Edited by Yoda_, 04 May 2009 - 10:16 PM.

[Rafv Nin IV]

...Which means he's useless against elves, because silverthorns deal magic damage.

[Atomic]

Ooooooooooorrrr...

weaken him a little more still, and make him a permanent hero!

Edited by Atomic, 05 May 2009 - 07:32 AM.

[Excuse_me_princess]

Why not make him stronger and make him the goblin ring hero.

[Rafv Nin IV]

Because the new Ring system, described in some topic somewhere () is infinitely awesomer.

[Neth]

Why not have him as a hero then? Yes it would be OP but just give him a cost of 7500+

[Atomic]

Why not have him as a hero then? Yes it would be OP but just give him a cost of 7500+

Yes. YES. YEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!! *evil laughter*

[Neth]

Guys We may have an Atomic problem
Glad at least one person agrees.

[Devon]

...Which means he's useless against elves, because silverthorns deal magic damage.

Oops, well, it's kinda illogical to make him weak to fire


Not as a hero. The goblins ran away from him, remember? The Balrog was pretty much unaffiliated, but he's just too cool to leave out of the game, so he's a summon.

[Uruk King]

I certainly agree with the Ring Hero for the Goblins idea, but he should be be more powerful according to realism, that means magic must be his bane, such magic heroes include Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, the Blue Wizards, Elrond, Galadriel, Glorfindel (for his famous slaying of a Balrog), Sauron, the Nazgul on fellbeast, but one thing though, there are no magic heroes for Rohan, and Radagast hardly counts.

[Atomic]

But in the 70's cartoon the goblins don't flee from the balrog: http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

I don't remember if the goblins fled from him in the book. Are we going strictly by the Peter Jackson films? A lot of stuff that wasn't in the films is being added to RJ RotWK.

Also, he could be added to Mordor instead of the goblin faction (which is where I'd rather see him anyway). Though goblins could keep him as a summonable, but that goes back to your argument. If we're going by the PJ films, why would goblins summon a creature they're afraid of? Wouldn't they run away as soon as he was summoned? There's really no difference there between a permanent and summonable balrog, then, as goblins should be afraid of him and not use him either way.

Edited by Atomic, 05 May 2009 - 07:35 PM.

[Rafv Nin IV]

What's wrong with the way it is now? Unless you've got a better 25pp power for the Goblins...

[Uruk King]

Yes, the other Dragon summon, Dragon Strike is held innaproprietely by Isengard now

[Wanderer∞]

But the balrog has to stay!!!!!

[Uruk King]

As a permanant Ring hero, that's how I thought it could stay

[Atomic]

As a permanant Ring hero, that's how I thought it could stay

As long as he's permanent instead of summonable, that makes me happy! Should he be with the goblins, Mordor, or both?

[Uruk King]

Permanent for the Goblins, possibly a summon for Mordor, not too sure though, seeing as that would create two balrogs.

If a Goblin player gets both the Balrog and the two high-tier Dragon spells, the enemy is going to be pretty hard-pressed

Edited by Uruk King, 07 May 2009 - 04:55 PM.