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#21 Mathijs

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 10:34 PM

Sorry, but having Aragorn fight for Sauron is rediculous.

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#22 JUS_SAURON

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 10:39 PM

Sorry, but having Aragorn fight for Sauron is rediculous.

Just a mission suggestion :unsure:
But remember Sauron had 9 kings of Gondor As Servants !
Aragorn is no different from the previous turned ones !

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 11:02 PM

The Dwarven rings except 1 I think were all lost.
Saruman was a Traitor to Sauron and Sauron new it.
Saruman would be one of his first targets I'd think.

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 11:17 PM

After the men :D

Oh, and quoting some Star Wars saying

What greater weapon is there, than to turn your enemies to your side

It sounds awfully familiar :unsure:

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 12:00 AM

First of all, Gondor didn't exist when Sauron created the Nazgul. Secondly, Aragorn's will was much greater than the other kings. Thirdly, Sauron detested all of the line of Isildur. He wouldn't want Aragorn, especially if he retained Anduril.
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 08:14 AM

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 05:40 PM

hey Dreamer :

1. Is this 'mod' An additional campaign ONLY ?
2. Is it a Campaign AND a MOD ?
3. Can it work with another personal mod ?
like mine which is an INI Folder and English Big File ?
4. If it is a Campaign and mod here is a cool FX for Gandalf the white :

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;;; MODEL STATES ;;;
DefaultModelConditionState ;gandalf is grey to start out with
Model = GUGandalfG_SKN
WeaponLaunchBone = TERTIARY STAFF
End

;;; White Only versions of Gandalf (for solo missions excluding Moria) ;;;
ModelConditionState = USER_2 MOUNTED
Model = GUGdfHrs_SKN_M
ParticleSysBone = B_PELVIS FrodoMithrilCoat FollowBone:Yes
ParticleSysBone = NONE FrodoMithrilCoat FollowBone:Yes
ParticleSysBone = BAT_HEAD FrodoMithrilCoat FollowBone:Yes
ParticleSysBone = PASSENGERBONE FrodoMithrilCoat FollowBone:Yes
WeaponLaunchBone = PRIMARY PASSENGERBONE
WeaponLaunchBone = TERTIARY STAFF
End

ModelConditionState = USER_2
Model = GUGandalf_SKN
ParticleSysBone = B_PELVIS FrodoMithrilCoat FollowBone:Yes
ParticleSysBone = BAT_HEAD FrodoMithrilCoat FollowBone:Yes
ParticleSysBone = NONE FrodoMithrilCoat FollowBone:Yes
ParticleSysBone = PASSENGERBONE FrodoMithrilCoat FollowBone:Yes
WeaponLaunchBone = TERTIARY STAFF
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It will make him glow alot more !

I was reading in some posts that you wanted the uruk pit to be damaged looking at the start of the mission :

Modify the codes like this or make a special IsengardUrukPit_ALWAYSDAMAGED object :

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DefaultModelConditionState
Model = IBUrukPit_D1
ParticleSysBone FireSmall01 FireBuildingLarge
ParticleSysBone FireSmall02 FireBuildingMedium
ParticleSysBone FireSmall03 FireBuildingMedium
ParticleSysBone FireSmall04 SmokeBuildingLarge
ParticleSysBone FireSmall05 FireBuildingMedium
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#28 JUS_SAURON

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 12:42 AM

Another Plot Twist :

Mission 1 :
Saruman is sent to a GoodMen Castle to get the WitckKing's Ring from
King Faramir and Queen Eowyn
He retrieves it and is told to bring it to Sauron

Mission 2 :
He tries to use this ring with his own magic to create a more powerful ring
Sauron has a 'Special' Book of Spells' in a Mordor fortress
Saruman sacks the fortress to get the book !

Mission 3 :
Saruman puts on the WK Ring and Feels he is powerful
He leads an attack on Mordor and Men/Rohan
His Urukai and Wildmen fight for Him !
A Three Sided Battle !
Eomer Dies and The Nazguls flee on losing !

Mission 4 :
Saruman is Decieved
The 'Special' Book of Spells' was just a test of Saruman's loyalty !
The WK's Ring is too powerful to be controlled .
SARUMAN IS NOW TURNED INTO WK.
He sets out to kill Gandalf as a WK/OriginalWhiteWizard COMBO
Gandalf , Legolas , and Gimli and Tranduil and Glorfindel in a men Fortress.
Glorfindel Dies and the others Retreats to the Elves

Mission 5:
Saruman fights a losing Battle against Gandalf and Elrond ,Legolas ,Gimli and Arwen
Nazguls join and puts them to Flight !
Arwen and Tranduil Dies !
Gandalf and Elrond and Gimli and legolas retreat to Dwarven Stronghold in mountains !

Mission 6 :
Elrond find himself in a Dwarven Mine Stronghold !
Nazguls attack Stronghold !
Saruman/WK join the fight - New Objective 1 : Defeat Gandalf !
Stand of with Gandalf and Saruman - Saruman Wins

Objective 1 Completed : Elrond launches a final Assault
Sauron joins the fight
Stand of with Sauron and Elrond - WHO WINS ??!!!

ps :Mission 1 could really be mission 10 then 11 etc .

Edited by JUS_SAURON, 11 May 2009 - 01:00 AM.


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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:53 PM

I like the idea of having Sauron betray Saruman (or the other way around), and I like your story (especially the idea with the three sided battle sounds amazing), but I think Dre@mer already has a quite complete scenario set up for his mod.

I do hope some of your ideas can be incorporated, but I also hope that there won't be too much work and that the campaign is well put together, which, it seems, is the case so far.

No offense meant in any way, and I think your ideas may be a source of inspiration for other modders...

I could be wrong about all this anyway :blush:

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 04:14 AM

Saruman is sent to a GoodMen Castle to get the WitckKing's Ring from
King Faramir and Queen Eowyn
He retrieves it and is told to bring it to Sauron


Faramir and Eowyn only get married after the war,they meet in the Houses of Healing being left behind was what drew them together.
They both would most likely have died without Aragorn there to heal them after Pelenor.

Saruman would have already been defeated and powerless by the time Sauron gets the ring.
The Witch King's ring would take time to take affect even on Saruman and he wouldn't turn into another Witch King.
We are not really sure what would happen if anything at all being that he is a Maiar.


Sorry Jus_Sauron none of that storyline made sense I am sorry to say that is all kind of stupid.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 08:56 PM

I'm not a big fan of that story, either. There are a lot of major flaws.

1. If Minas Tirith is one of the first missions, Faramir and Eowyn would have died in the Houses of Healing.
2. Eomer, Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli all would have died at the Black Gate.
3. How in Middle-earth does Saruman keep on jumping between locations hundreds of miles apart with a full army?!?
4. The king of Mirkwood is named Thranduil.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 09:27 PM

Not like Dre@mer's story is very much better. Well, I guess it is at least realistic, however inaccurate. Okay, it is like that, but... I don't know. :p
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 10:24 PM

They are only ideas people , not an exact script ! :p
I was just trying to give Dreamer some EXTRA Campaign Suggestions
to lengthen the mod .

Maybe If I can resurrect Tolkien his suggestions will be Totally Fan Approved
even if he says Sauron falls in love with Galadriel and they live happily ever after !

Don't take my suggestion so serious .Most Strategy Game Campaigns are just a varied story-line
like Nazguls seeking Drogoth's Allegience !!! WAH!! :dry:

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 10:35 PM

If Tolkien says Sauron falls in love with Galadriel, I will NOT approve of it :p
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 10:52 PM

If Tolkien says Sauron falls in love with Galadriel, I will NOT approve of it :huh:

Not wanting to off topic from
:p Dreamer's Great Campaign Mod :dry: but

Sauron fall in love BUT Galadriel Does not , She's a High Class Elf ,(Unrequited love ) :huh:

BTW :In Hellboy 2 Movie there seems to be a LOTR reference when the ghost professor
unveils a Golden Ring from a pouch .What's up with that !?

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 05:48 PM

There will be at least one three sided battle in the campaign...

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 10:56 AM

Three sides?

Mordor Vs *good faction* VS ???

who would be the third faction? Isengard?
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Posted 24 May 2009 - 02:23 PM

Yes

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 03:39 PM

Hi I am new in this Forums but followed this mod since its beginning on this site and on mod db and as I said in an other post it seems to be great.
But I have one question on the Minas Tirith map.
So, can you dreamer eventually tell me (us) how you made the top of the minas tirith map, that the units can go up there without going through a wall cause for me the top looks like it is done with the height tool whatever its name is because of the groundtexture, but that wouldnt work as much as i know and the units couldnt o throught the mountain and so you must have found an other way..???
I made a big map of minas tirith for bfme1 some time ago with some walls under the top of minas tirith but if I want to make the top bigger it is not compatible with the rings and so on if you want you can look at it here: http://mevault.ign.c...age.php?id=9596
there you can see that the top is out of place to the rest of the map...

and since some time I work on an bigger version too but have no Ideas how to make the top.

It would be really really nice if you could help me with an answer about this??
thank you very much.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 06:00 PM

Three sides?

Mordor Vs *good faction* VS ???

who would be the third faction? Isengard?



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