Finding Obi-Wan's Delta-7 in working order on irradiated Geonosis some two decades later is a pretty bad way to reference AotC, I would agree. I'm not sure why Geonosis had to be included in that game, but I'll give them props for Ralltiir and some other decisions.
Yeah Ralltiir was cool, so was the Dubrillion level...the landscape...erm, seascape was badass. As was Dantooine even though there was no fighter combat.
Lol, I have to confess, there are some games taking place in the prequel era that I liked...as games. I thought they were fair, in some cases pretty damn good.
Episode 1 racer for N64 was actually a pretty good racing game with a lot of unique touches. I beat that whole game years and years ago. I don't think I've ever played a racing game with that much speed.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars (I had it for Gamecube, I don't recall if it was exclusive) was pretty good as well, the main missions were fun, a lot of ground missions with good controls (contrasted to the ground missions in Rebel Strike which were beyond bland...), and the one multi-player mode where you commanded an army was pretty badass.
(Did you know that if you look in the bonus concept art for the Clone Wars game you'll find concept art for a "combat speeder" that looks practically the same as those Imperial Submarines in the Dubrillion mission in Rebel Strike? I added that factoid in the Behind the Scenes section in the Imperial Submarine Article on the Star Wars wiki.)
Star Wars: Bounty Hunter was great as well, and it marks the first time in a Star Wars game that I was scared to near Resident Evil/Silent Hill levels...what I'm referring to is the Bando Gora...*shiver* Freaky things I never expected to see in a Star Wars game.
All I'm trying to do with the CW-era stuff is improve continuity, which means putting T.I.E. Starfighters and Dreadnaughts alongside Alpha-3s and Venators.
Yeah, I understand.
Kitkun has a point about preconceptions sort of ruining the prequels for some hardcore fans, but I think much of that has to do with preconceptions that were sold to us as "official" and yet were strangely absent from the films. As far as GL is concerned, there is no C-canon continuity - and I can understand why, from his perspective, because some of it is quite awful. But I fault Lucas Licensing for failing to distinguish more between "good" and "bad" C-canon.
I think the issue is in truth Lucas only truly cares about the Star Wars story
he wants to tell, he'll let other people make works based in the Star Wars universe but all he's focused on is the, as he put it, "Tragedy of Darth Vader", which is pretty much outlined in all the movies.
But it would be nice if Lucas went out of his way to declare certain things non-canonical, as he has that "God-like" ability...
I mean, why is the Star Wars Holiday Special considered canonical, for instance? He said he
HATED it so much that if he had the time he would "track every copy down and destroy it". Something like that...if you ask me, he essentially stated he never wanted it to be made, so I would think that would de-canonize it.
There's other things that he should de-canonize...like Jaxxon. Now, I don't have so much of a problem with there simply being an alien species that resemble anthropomorphic rabbits, I mean we already have quite a few alien species that are essentially anthropomorphic animals, felines represented by Trianii, Cathars, Togorians, and others,
many species representing canines, species like Thakwaash and others representing equines, Selonians and Tynnans can be interpreted as anthropomorphic otters, many species are essentially anthro rodents, and even Amaran being anthropomorphic foxes (do you know how many freaken furry Star Wars fans RP as Amaran on the game Second Life? They've managed to turn an obscure barely mentioned species into an apparently common one. It's hilarious.). I could on, but back on point...
The problem with Jaxxon is the backstory and mainly the backstory of the Lepi species...I know it was meant to be funny and done as a inside joke at the time, but the obvious problem is that when they were writing the Star Wars marvel comics they didn't really take it seriously enough. They couldn't foresee that in the future it would cause problems with the Star Wars Universe as a whole...it detracts from the overall seriousness. I can take a joke, but damn...
George Lucas fucked up himself with Binks in that regard.
There's other things as well, but you get the idea.
Dark Empire was officially lauded when it came out...
I have to say, I love the Dark Empire comics.
Shouldn't the best continuity be on another level entirely - T-canon, if you will? Everyone was made to coordinate with WEG sourcebooks except Lucas himself, but wouldn't the prequels have had a better reception if they had just put Dreadnaughts and Carracks in the Battle of Coruscant?
I agree. I was a bit angry realizing there were no Dreadnoughts or Carracks at all in the prequel trilogy, yet in all EU sources they're stated to be from that era...official off-movie sources state that Carracks did participate in the Battle of Coruscant portrayed in Revenge of the Sith and helped in taking down the
Invisible Hand. The problem with this argument however, the one Kitkun was using, is that it really only applies to Star Wars fans who pay attention to the EU. I mean Star Wars "fans" who don't may like the prequels or not.
My mom, who doesn't consider herself a Star Wars fan(She's more of a Trek fan but she hates Voyager and Deep Space 9, overall she doesn't go to conventions she just likes TOS and especially TNG), but likes/respects movies in general, disliked the prequels but liked the original trilogy. This argument doesn't really apply to people like her. From a purely out of universe perspective, and viewing them as just movies, the prequels just lacked the spirit (and the consistent good acting...), of the originals, among other things.
Of course, it goes the other way as well, having the prequel stuff show up in later eras that were created beforehand, but this aspect of continuity is relatively widespread (and some would say overly so 
). With PR, I'm trying to bridge the 19 BBY gap both ways.
It's just ironic that fans such as ourselves are more coherent continuity-wise than Lucas, but as I said, Lucas doesn't pay too close attention to anything outside his own movies.
Relatively rarely he'll insert an EU reference in, such as the name Coruscant.
Wait, really? Have you seen the two feature-length Ewok movies, the Ewok cartoons, the Ewok comics, the Ewok toys, and so on and so forth?
I heard of them, read about them, but haven't seen them. I'm just stating that I doubt they decided to put in Ewoks for the express purpose of spin-offs. Lucas said he did it for a low-tech species to defeat the empire, like I previously stated. The decision for the spin-offs I'm sure came after the fact. I mean did it really have to be Ewoks to make spin-offs? They could have made spin-off films with Wookies, and it'd have been less gay, and I'm sure kids would have been fine with Wookies.
Of all the technologically primitive species out there, is there another one that looks like a teddy bear? Wouldn't RotJ have been better had it been set on Dressel? Meh, I'm just grumbling.
Dressel wasn't established as a planet yet, nor was the species.
I know a Dresselian appeared in ROTJ in the Home One briefing room (deleted scene, was it, or just a minor cameo? I forget), but the back-story wasn't established for them yet.
I still think Wookies would have been way cooler, I mean people agreed Chewbacca was badass and camp, I'm sure audiences back then would have been ecstatic to see a whole planet full of `em. Instead we were treated to the Wookie planet in Revenge of the Sith...sadly a prequel, though the one that was the least shitty, but still...
Then again, Endor being more far flung than Kashyyyk was a more logical location to build the second Death Star, I'm assuming it was more obscure than Kashyyyk as well (a lot of sources imply that). If Lucas kept with the Wookie concept Wookies would actually
have come from Endor...meh, I'm rambling now.
I don't really mind the political undertones... I think the premise of the CIS is fairly brilliant as the CW adversary to the Republic (that's not reminiscent of the Rebellion). It's just that none of that stuff with Naboo really grasps the big picture. I guess I would've preferred the first movie to start with some history of how Palpatine became a Sith, you know what I mean? I don't think TPM should assume that anyone's seen the original trilogy - if it was the first movie you saw, as it's meant to be, it's really kind of jarring.
It wasn't apparent to me when I first saw the prequels, I was still relatively too young to get the political overtones. After re-watching them I realized that the story itself wasn't terrible it was mostly the execution. Even when I first saw Revenge of the Sith I didn't catch the whole conspiracy aspect of it, then after re-watching and reading some backstory I was like "Woah, Palpatine was controlling both sides?!" It wasn't that bad of an idea overall.
The similarities between the Clone Wars and the real American Civil War are apparant as well, the
Confederacy of Independent Systems, the
Grand Army of the Republic, etc. Interesting...were they making a stab at Lincoln? Lincoln actually did unconstitutional things to fight the Confederates...there's a strange analogy there.
Weird though that the Confederate States of America share their acronym not with the CIS, but with the Corporate Sector Authority, with has nothing in common.
Though, what I've always found strange was that the in-universe Galactic Civil War is the Rebellion versus the Empire...which is more of an insurgency than a civil war, the Clone Wars was more accurately a civil war, as I stated, with both out of universe analogies
and in-universe politics taken into account.
Edited by Kacen, 21 September 2009 - 09:47 PM.
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