38 replies to this topic

[ElrondHighLord]

Hail, Survivors of Cirno Day,

I am surprised I am still here myself,
This weeks update is a bunch of ingame screenshots of more WOTR Units

Goldberry,



Radagast



Aragorn Foot



Aragorn Mounted



Kerreh


Far Troll Men



Thats all this week,
Vanyarian King beyond the Sea

P.s. There will be a new secret forum, where anyone could have access to

[Dant]

Very Impressive.

nice work EHL

[yams in a can]

I hope you know that the half trolls of Far Harad were human, and not trolls.

[Dant]

It's human indeed...*look at Wars of the East* well..it design might be Troll,but i'm fine nothing against it..and actually i think it pretty cool.

[ElrondHighLord]

They are actually quite small , more human sized

[Gfire]

In the book it specifically said Golberry's "gown" was green. She likely wore multiple gowns, but I think it would be best if you made it green.

Radagast looks good, though I would have liked to see some brown or at least darker gray in his hair.



Edit: Here's the quote on Goldberry:

Her long yellow hair rippled down her shoulders; her gown was green, green as young reeds, shot with silver like beads of dew; and her belt was of gold, shaped like a chain of flag-lilies set with the pale-blue eyes of forget-me-nots. About her feet in wide vessels of green and brown earthenware, white water-lillies were floating, so that she seemed to be enthroned in the midst of a pool.

Hope that helps.

Edited by Gfire, 18 September 2009 - 07:15 PM.

[Pixel]

They are actually quite small , more human sized

I expect hes reffering to there look, not size.

[Ring o' Fate]

Well, in the book, it says that they LOOK like them, but aren't.

[Devon]

It doesn't say they aren't, it just says they look like them, meaning they might or might not be

[Dant]

Many concept design make them actually Troll.

[Gfire]

iirc, it says "men like half trolls" - that means men, not half trolls. I don't think they can be half trolls if they are men.

[Dant]

Indeed,according to books they should look like This and they are not Trolls maybe bigger than human normal size that why people call them Half-Trolls.

still if you see thier renders from Wars of the East before i think you should be fine with them.

Edited by Dant, 20 September 2009 - 06:48 AM.

[Námo]

The Troll-Men:

During the War of the Ring, for the first time negroid men of Far Harad were seen in Gondor. These black-skinned individuals, obviously unlike the Swarthy Men, appeared to the Dúnedain "like half-trolls with white eyes and red tongues", and were accordingly - though erroneously - called "troll-men".

[Dant]

Arn't they suppose to be bigger than normal men size as well..i mean taller and look more brute but doesn't mean they are giant.

anyway thanks for the description Námo

Edited by Dant, 20 September 2009 - 09:05 AM.

[{IRS}Athos]

Well, African tribes such as the Tutsi/Watusi (I think I spelled that wrong...) were generally taller than six feet, so the change in stature would be logical...

[Dant]

I thought "The Troll-Men" reference to Zulu in real life.

[Námo]

Arn't they suppose to be bigger than normal men size as well ...

As they are neither described by Tolkien as "short and broad" or "tall", we must assume that they were of normal hight: not much more than six feet, maybe less:

[of the great stature of the Númenóreans]

... two rangar was often called 'man-high', which at thirty-eight inches gives an average height of six feet four inches, but this was at a later date, when the stature of the Dúnedain appears to have decreased ...

It is however said of the great people of the past, that they were more than man-high. Elendil was said to be 'more than man-high by nearly half a ranga; but he was accounted the tallest of all the Númenóreans who escaped the Downfall.

The Rohirrim were generally shorter, for in their far-off ancestry they had been mingled with men of broader and heavier build.

I don't believe the Black Men of Far Harad were as high as the Númenóreans, as it is said that they were the tallest men in Middle-earth.
The ancestors of the Black Men, like all other human people of Middle-earth, were the first Atani that awoke in the land of Hildorien (in the far East) more than nine thousand years before the War of the Ring.

Edited by Námo, 21 September 2009 - 02:36 PM.

[Gfire]

The ancestors of the Black Men were, like all other human people of Middle-earth, the first Atani that awoke in the land of Hildorien (in the far East) more than nine thousand years before the War of the Ring.

Have a quote?

[Námo]

what in particular do you want quotes on:

the black men being of mankind? ... or the ancestors of men awakening in Hildórien? ... or the span of time since then?

[Gfire]

The latter two, preferably. Mainly the second.