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[drogoth232]

I have been interested in this mod for such a long time. Everything looks great! Aragorns skin could be slightly improved. The body clothes are a little too bright for me. (well not improved perse but maybe you dont have to. Its a suggestion) Also I havent been around this side of town alot but where is the suggestion form?

Edited by drogoth232, 21 September 2009 - 07:54 PM.

[MirkwoodArcher]

I have been interested in this mod for such a long time. Everything looks great! Aragorns skin could be slightly improved. The body clothes are a little too bright for me. (well not improved perse but maybe you dont have to. Its a suggestion) Also I havent been around this side of town alot but where is the suggestion form?

It doesn't look like there is one, so you can probably just post your comments here. I would highly suggest that you join the forums. It's a fun place and you will be able to talk about the mod and talk to the team.

[Dant]

Indeed..amd don't let Origin and Ringy scared you.

[drogoth232]

Ringgy is by Rohan BFF.

[Námo]

The ancestors of the Black Men, like all other human people of Middle-earth, were the first Atani that awoke in the land of Hildorien (in the far East) more than nine thousand years before the War of the Ring.

Have a quote?

... OK, but as you recently posted this:

Tolkien revised a lot of his "theories" so there are many contradictions between works over a long period of time. We can't really know which one is accurate, because he never decided. I prefer to follow books published during his lifetime, though ... It just seems more accurate.

Haha, I wish I could read more of the books. I've gotten to the Silmarillion. ...

... I maybe ought to give references only to the Silmarillion, where you'll find the info in Chapter 12: OF MEN. It is here said, that "West, North, and South the children of Men spread and wandered ..." and in Chapter 17: OF THE COMING OF MEN INTO THE WEST of the three Houses of the Edain coming into Beleriand, and with them tales of all the evils of the Shadow of Morgoth, from which they fled.

... but, as three hundred years are far too short a time for men to multiply and become "numerous peoples", and for their languages to become "sundered in speech", and for some of the peoples to become "corrupted" by Morgoth, Tolkien revised the time of awakening in some of his later writings:

The time of the Awakening of Men is now placed far back:
... "The coming of Men will therefore be much further back"; "Men must awake while Melkor is still in [Middle-earth] - because of their fall. Therefore in some period during the Great March." [of the Eldar]
In the chronology of the Annals of Aman and the Grey Annals the Great March began in the Years of the Trees 1105, and the foremost companies of the Eldar came to the shores of the Great Sea in 1125; Men awoke in Hildórien in the Years of the Trees 1500. Thus if the Awakening of Men is placed even very late in the period of the Great March of the Eldar it will be set back by more than 3500 Years of the Sun.

please note that: ONE Valarian Year (ONE Year of the Trees) = TEN Years of the Sun.

Many different phrases have been used of the site of Hildórien, so I will not quote these here without a reliable map of the Eastern parts of Middle-earth. When I get time to do some cartographic work again, I might come back to this issue.

Want more quotes?

Edited by Námo, 29 September 2009 - 10:23 AM.

[Dant]

Thanks you very much Námo for inform those quotes ,I never had a chance to read the Silmarillion here.

[Gfire]

Yeah, I've only read some of it.

[{IRS}Athos]

Námo: you should sign on as official loremaster to the WoA team. I need someone to help me convince them that unicorns don't exist and Minas Morgul would not be rebuilt by Gondorians until VERY LATE in the Fourth Age.

[MirkwoodArcher]

Námo: you should sign on as official loremaster to the WoA team. I need someone to help me convince them that unicorns don't exist and Minas Morgul would not be rebuilt by Gondorians until VERY LATE in the Fourth Age.

Oh, come on!!! Unicorns are cool (especially for the Elves) Just one...please.

[Dant]

Then can we have scorpion pet please?

so Origin will stop his whining.

[Ring o' Fate]

Námo: you should sign on as official loremaster to the WoA team. I need someone to help me convince them that unicorns don't exist and Minas Morgul would not be rebuilt by Gondorians until VERY LATE in the Fourth Age.

Oh, come on!!! Unicorns are cool (especially for the Elves) Just one...please.

I'm gonna answer that question for all lore abiding people. NO.

[Námo]

There certainly are no unicorns in Tolkien's writings, but once two emus tried to make their way into the narrative of The Hobbit:
[the scene is the US 1965 - Ace Books had published a 'pirate' edition of The Hobbit and Ballentine (who had a deal with Tolkien) was late with their edition, waiting for some revisions from the author, and when their edition finally appeared ...]

Ballentine's cover picture seemed to have no relevance whatever to The Hobbit, for it showed a hill, two emus, and a curious tree bearing bulbous fruit. Tolkien exploded: "What has it to do with the story? Where is this place? Why emus? And what is the thing in the foreground with pink bulbs?" When the reply came, that the artist hadn't time to read the book, and that the object with pink bulbs was 'meant to suggest a Christmas tree', Tolkien could only answer: "I begin to fell that I am shut up in a madhouse."

Moral: READ THE BOOKS!

[ElrondHighLord]

IRS, It is not necessary to have a loremaster position at woa

[{IRS}Athos]

You're only saying that because you want your unicorn...

As I recall, Námo, there was also a crazy-looking lion on that cover. It got buried underneath purple grass later on.

[Námo]

Unicorns? Pets? ... and now a Lion! ... since when has Narnia become a region of Middle-earth?

Nice try, IRS, but please count me out on this.

[CTLN7]

i could give you my griffin

[Dant]

Merge narnia and lotr togather?

J.R.R. Tolkien will come out from graveyard just to kick you butt.

[{IRS}Athos]

@ Námo: The lion was only on the messed-up Hobbit cover; not in WoA... yet.

@ Dant: C.S. Lewis was Tolkien's best friend, though...

Edited by {IRS}Athos, 02 October 2009 - 02:04 AM.

[MirkwoodArcher]

Griffins are so cool, BUT they probably should not be in WoA.