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[Rawlo]

http://news.ninemsn.....aspx?id=874231

What a bloody red neck, shoot first ask questions later. here in australia he would have been arrested and sent to jail for man slaughter. the 'burgeler' wasn't attacking him so he can't exactly claim self defence. But they reckon he's gonna get off scot free. I think thats bloody pathetic.

[Mathijs]

Amazing.

[Bereneth Túrien]

My god. Didn't even bother to turn on a light or anything?

[Beowulf]

The story has a sad ending unfortunately, and I hate to see people die. But he does have a right to protect himself and his property. Just happened he was wrong this time. He still should be charged with at least manslaughter for it. Now if it was an actual burglar, it would be different.

[some_weirdGuy]

And so if he wasn't so trigger happy, if America had proper gun laws, his fiancée wouldn't be dead.

I feel sorry for the guy, but at the same time i'm just thinking 'its all your fault' and 'you have no one to blame but yourself', mixed with just a little hint of 'serves you right'. You don't need guns. I don't have a gun, most countries have proper gun laws, America it seems needs to grow up. They're like kids who don't want their toys taken away from them. But i don't really want to start up the whole guns argument again, cause the americans on here who are for guns are almost fanatic in their conviction that they need them, and no amount of persuasion will make them see reason, so its pointless.

Now if only America as a whole could learn from this guy's misfortune, and enact proper gun laws and in their country...

[Dant]

Such a sad story indeed...

[Ash]

I don't feel sorry for him at all.

I'm all in favour of guns kept in the home, but at very least identify who/what you are shooting at before you shoot. People as idiotic as him shouldn't be allowed guns.

Definitely a manslaughter charge because he was negligent - he didn't verify that his target was actually a burglar. That and you can't sentence someone for being powerfully stupid. I expect the fiancee's family won't be too chuffed about it and will probably press charges. And rightly fucking so.

[Tom]

Another case of an idiot misusing a weapon. I'm against gun control because you have the right to defend yourself in your own home. This guy was just an idiot. I feel sorry for his fiancee. Seriously what a dumb ass.

[Bart]

Now if it was an actual burglar, it would be different.

No, then he still should not have shot the burglar unless he attacked him.

[Jeeves]

And new from the makers of the shotgun-wedding; the shotgun-death-shall-we-part.
Good thing he was firing shots around the house though, the King of England could've snuck in if he let down the iron curtain!

[Downfall]

Usually when you put people in the dark, they get frightened (which is why he seemed trigger happy).

Like this one story I remember granted it's not real but still

A man and his wife go out to dinner leaving their little girl home. They go out have fun, seemingly having good time away from all the stress inside the home. When they come home they call for the little girl's name and get no response. Then they hear a noise coming from upstairs in the girl's room. The father goes and grabs his gun.

They make their way up to her room and find no one inside. Then the noise, from earlier, came from her closet. He points the gun and heads toward the closet. He slowly opens the closet door, and the little girl pops out and screams "BOO". He shoots her in the head and she dies right then and there. He falls to the ground sobbing because he just killed his little girl.

What the story is meant to illustrate is that human beings are emotional and not logical beings. Because if we were logical the father instead of being scared, grabbing his gun, and shooting his child out of fear, he would have dismissed the noise as being his daughter upstairs playing.

[Taralom]

Chief Brunelle said detective were waiting on forensic results but added that no charges were likely to be filed against Mr Tabutt.

What in the name of...?
No charges? At all?
Well, that's an easy way to get away with murder! I wish I was an American!

Seriously, I do not feel bad for this guy. I feel bad for the lady. She is dead because of his idiocy!

[Puppeteer]

Good thing he was firing shots around the house though, the King of England could've snuck in if he let down the iron curtain!

Oh Jeeves, you do make me laugh

That poor fiancée. That stupid man.

[Beowulf]

No, then he still should not have shot the burglar unless he attacked him.

Yes because we all know the burglar played fair by breaking in. Fuck that. I have the right to defend my home, family and property.

[Bart]

There's such a thing as an overreaction

[Phil]

Yes because we all know the burglar played fair by breaking in. Fuck that. I have the right to defend my home, family and property.

Only if you value your property higher than the life of another human being, burglar or not.
You should have the right to defend yourself (your life) if he attacks you, or not be guilty if you thought that's what happened, but just shooting everything that moves because it's "in your house" is idiotic.

Edited by Dark Lord of the Sith, 11 October 2009 - 09:12 PM.

[Allathar]

Shooting a burglar is perfectly fine, in my opinion. Those fucktards shouldn't enter my house and take my possessions or threaten my family - or they'll face the consequences. And of course I won't shoot at anything that moves - only if I know for certain it's a burglar.

Makes me think about a situation here in Holland. A burglar broke in a store, stole some boxes of cigarretes, but then the police arrived. Together with his buddy he drove away, ignoring the warnings of the police. He also drove through a police barricade. When the police noticed his buddy was getting something from inside the car, they thought he was picking up a gun, so naturally they fired at the car.

Well, turns out the guy wasn't picking up a gun after all. One bullet hit the burglar, he's blind on one eye, and now the burglar's charging the police for shooting at him. He's in the newspapers with a sad story with a picture showing his poor little face.

Where the fuck is the world going to...

[Ring o' Fate]

...And you guys think AMERICANS need a grip on their guns?
I'm all for having guns, but I am against the fact that the smart gun owners should get their guns taken away because one goddamn jackass shot him/herself\someone he/she knows. The only way a gun kills someone is if you, the moron carrying the gun, pulls the trigger.

[Beowulf]

There's such a thing as an overreaction

Yes there is, but when you feel you're in imminent danger, you don't stop to think.

Only if you value your property higher than the life of another human being, burglar or not.

If I worked for it, I don't have the right protect what I worked for? No, no, no. It doesn't work that way.

[Mathijs]

That depends on where you live. Placing the value of your precious material belongings over the life of another human being is pathetically self-centred. By all means, hold the bastard at gunpoint, tell him to get the fuck down, then call the cops, but don't fucking shoot a man just for breaking into your house. If he comes at you, then yes, you are at liberty to take him down, though preferably through a bullet in the leg or shoulder.

Edited by Matias, 11 October 2009 - 11:18 PM.