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[Nazgûl]

It a LONG time before we get to the campaign, since the skirmish mod will have to be ALL done first of all... so this is just planning the campaign structure...

GOOD Campaign
- Shire
- Bree
- Weathertop
- Rivendell
- Caradhras
- Moria
- Lórien
- Amon Hen
- Helm's Deep
- Isengard
- Osgiliath
- Minas Tirith
- Cirith Ungol
- Pellenor Fields
- Morannon (Black Gate)
- Mount Doom
- Barad-dûr

EVIL Campaign (not given any major thought yet)
- Edoras

... more to come =)

Edited by Nazgûl, 21 November 2009 - 07:30 PM.

[Gfire]

A few things. Firstly, how do first five or so levels make up whole levels? Also, What is the Barad Dur level?

I think it'd be cool, since this is a movie mod, to have a prologue level, covering the last alliance battle.

[Mercyy]

- Bree

I would say "Old forest+bree", because I don't think that there is enough for just Bree.

What targets do you have in Rivendell?

Why is there no Helms Deep?

If you put in Osgiliath I would also put in Fords of isen... it was as important as Osgiliath



Looking forward to the campaign

[khamulrulz]

i would like it if it was with the living world map like bfme1. basically combining war of the ring mode with the campaign. also, the campaign should be different for each faction. so it would be like total war sort of. hopefully all the new territories are added. each faction would start with their respective territories, and has to defeat their respective enemies. there would also be a fellowship campaign mode, following their journey.

using the war of the ring system, with teams, here are the following factions with hero armies:
gondor would have a boromir army at osgiliath, faramir army at ithilien, and imrahil at dol amroth.
rohan would have theoden and eomer at edoras, and theodred at the fords of isen.
erebor would have dain and thorin at erebor, and brand at dale (separate map), or celduin river.
lorien would have elrond at rivendell, thranduil at mirkwood, and celeborn at lorien.
rhun would have alatar and lorgan in rhun, and oldur in khand.
harad would have pallando, suladan, and lubayd in near harad.
isengard would have saruman and lurtz at isengard and wulf in dunland
moria would have azog and bolg in moria and great goblin at the high pass.
mordor would have the witch-king at minas morgul, a nazgul at dol guldur, and the mouth of sauron at barad-dur

[Nazgûl]

Sure, if someone could pick up the work after I'm dead at 85 or so...

I forgot HD off course... *Adding*
This is just a road map. I haven't thought about any details yet. Some maps might just mean you have to make it through them, in one piece.

[ttandchotmail]

Perhaps the evil campaign could start with the invasion of moria and the goblins taking over the dwarven halls there . With NJM's new moria map it would be a great start for the S.E.E. Campaign to begin

Sure it could be said that that wasn't part of the war of the ring but in my oppinion that was probably saurons first attack. When going after a superior force you start by cutting off the reinforcements. The Dwarves of moria would have been strong allies.

As for the Good campaign I'd imagine the four hobbits leaving the shire/bree and hiding from the nazgul on horseback on some country roads like we saw in the movie.

Edited by ttandchotmail, 22 November 2009 - 10:24 AM.

[Gfire]

Now, I don't understand the Barad Dur level. There was no battle near it in the movie. It just collapsed when the Ring was destroyed.

[Captain Beremir]

Is there going to be a Good Ithilien level like in the BFME1 campaign? I liked that one.

[Arthadan]

Alas, I was finishing writting a long post about trhe evil campaign but I have lost it.

I do hope this time will work.

Evil Campaign:

- Moria: Goblins crushing Balin's Dwarves.

- The Vales of the Anduin: The Nine are looking for the Ring . They have to cross the map alongside the river, which has a Hobbit settlemet (the people of Sméagol still lived there, not all of them crossed the Misty Mountains to settle in Bree and the Shire). There are also many Lórien patrols to spice things.

- The Ford of Tharbad: After the unsuccessful search in the Anduin, the Nine return to Mordor. There, Sauron has learnt from aptured Gollum where the One is! It's in somewhere called "the Shire", in the hands of someone called "Baggins". As a cold wind the Nine cross Rohan and arrived to Tharbad, where the brave Dúnedain try to stop them to no avail. Obviously, this scenary would be the Nine and loads of Rangers of the North.

- Chasing the Ring: Frodo is trying to reach Rivendell with the One and Elrond has sent powerful Elf-lords to help him. Since this mod is based upon the movie, Arwen will arrive with Frodo so the story can go on. The Nine Nazgûl vs. Rivendell's Elves and Glorfindel (and the sons of Elrond, elladan & Elrohir if they're added). The Elf-lords are killed, but the Nazgûl are drowned in the ford as in the movie (movie scene in the Palantir?).

- Wood for the Forges: Isengard vs. Ents in Fangorn (build and protect several lumber mills).

- Battle of the Ford of Isen: Isengard (no heroes) vs. Rohan (with Théodred as only hero). Théoden's son must die at all cost! (if this character is added to the mod, that is).

- The Death of Boromir: As in the movie. Isengard (Lurtz) vs. the Fellowship. Merry and Pipping must be captured, Boromir must die and it's impossible to capture Frodo and Sam.

- Attack on Edoras: The pepople of Rohan will fall! Isengard (sharku, Wormtongue, Lurtz and the othe Uruk character) vs. Rohan (with Théoden and Eowyn as only heroes) on Edoras map.

- Helm's Deep: The few remaining people of Rohan are trembling, hide in here. Isengard (all heroes) vs. Rohan (Éomer, Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas and Gandalf who arrives later with reinforcemnts). At the end, ents show up but they're burnt for good. Rohan has fallen.

- The death of the Ringbearer: Frodo's will crumble and he uses the One, revealing his position to the Eye. The fool is in Mordor! With all haste, some Nazgûl on winged beast are sent to chase him but Great Eagles and Ithilien Rangers will try to stop them. The One is captured and Sauron rise in all his power.

- Siege of Erebor: Men of Rhûn vs. Dwarves.

- Siege of Lórien: Moria Goblins with the balrog defiling Galadriel's forest.

- Osgiliath: Mordor (Gothmog) vs Gondor (Faramir and any Ithilien Ranger character we may have)

- The Road to Mordor: a Haradrim army must clean the path of any Gondorian troops for the many Men of Harad who will go to Mordor to serve the Dark Lord. Men of Harad vs. Gondor on dessert map.

- The battle of Pelennor: Men of Harad and Mordor (Sauron, Gothmog, the Nine) vs. Gondor (Gandalf the White, and any appropiate character we may have such Denethor or Beregond) and the army of the Oathbreakers (Oathbreakers King, Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas). Sauron smashes those translucents loosers when they appear with the "Rightful King & friends". The White City is taken.

Edited to add this one:
- Punish the Traitor: Sauron is not a forgiving guy. He was well aware of the treason of Saruman and now he will pay. Mordor (The Nine Nazgûl, Mounth of Sauron) vs. Isengard (Saruman, Wormtongue) on Orthanc map

- Siege of Rivendell: The Secret Vale location is protected no more by Elrond's Ring and Mordor armies march across Eriador. Mordor (Sauron) vs. Elves (Elrond, Arwen) on Rivendell map.

- The Grey Havens: No Elf will ever flee Middle-earth, they all will stay and suffer in pain!. Some naval action at long last. Corsairs ships and evil men vs. Elves (Círdan) on Mithlond map.

Edited by Arthadan, 23 November 2009 - 11:47 AM.

[khamulrulz]

that evil campaign looks nice, arthadan

[Arthadan]

Thanks khamulrulz!

I have just made up one more scenary, to be included just after the Batlle of Pelennor:

- Punish the Traitor: Sauron is not a forgiving guy. He was well aware of the treason of Saruman and now he will pay. Mordor (The Nine Nazgûl, Mounth of Sauron) vs. Isengard (Saruman, Wormtongue) on Orthanc map

Edited by Arthadan, 23 November 2009 - 11:46 AM.

[Hel Gast]

We could always let us inspire by http://www.moddb.com.../rise-of-sauron (when it is finished).

Furthermore, a not-completely non-linear thing would be special (but hard to make). Thus: when Frodo is captured early, then the assaults with Sauron will happen sooner. When Boromir survives, then he will fight at Pelennor. That kind of thing. Using the world map (war of the ring) in BFMEI style would be the best at all (with maps giving special bonuses, special objectives giving better troops, that kind of thing).

One question: How did the Balrog survive, and how did Gandalf survive Rohan? Or do we have Gandalf double-white in Gondor?

[Arthadan]

It would be really cool to have a non-linear campaign!

Regarding Gandalf and the Balrog, in my idea for a linear campaign the Balrog kills Gandalf in Moria, so he stays alive and Gandalf the White reapears in Helm's Deep. There, he should escape alive (since he arrive with reinforcements) and appear again in Minas Tirith to be properly killed.

[Florisz]

Then what of Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli?

[Arthadan]

Aren't we speaking about maps here?

Legolas and/or Gimli can die in Helm's Deep, but Aragorn has to survive until the Pelennor to arrive with the Oathbreakers.

[Gfire]

Oh yeah, I've been wanting a Mordor Vs. Isengard level for ages.

[Masterbadeend]

Wow, that's a lot of typing, but I would add some missions between Amon Hen and Helmsdeep.

[Jonasking]

Battle for Lorien I II III(It was 3 right?)

Battle for Mirkwood aka Battle under the leaves I II

Some Rohirrim missions like BFME1 with Eomer.

Dol Goldur

Dol Amroth

[Gfire]

For Rohan, I think Battle of Fords of Isen I and II, and Eaves of Fangorn, and of course HD. Those are the only specific battles I know of. IIRC, the rest was just little raids. Maybe you could have Eothain or whoever escaping from the Uruk-Hai, with that whole village sequence. It was in the movies, so it would be kinda cool.