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#1 Hostile

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 06:31 AM

Chamber of Commerce CEO Tom Donohue is a wanted man -- at least according to the liberal activist group that's put a de facto bounty on his head.

A network of liberal groups known as Velvet Revolution started an ad campaign offering $200,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the man whose trade organization has become a thorn in the side of the Obama administration and congressional Democrats.

The group is not leveling any specific charges of criminal behavior. Rather, it is casting a wide net, fishing for any whistleblowers from Donohue's past who might come forward with allegations of wrongdoing. The campaign against the Chamber was launched in response to the group's opposition to climate change legislation and health care reform, and its plan to spend $100 million lobbying against these and other initiatives.

"On every issue, the Chamber is kind of the lead corporate advocate for the status quo," said Kevin Zeese, a lawyer who sits on the board for Velvet Revolution, calling Donohue a "knee-jerk reactionary" and the Chamber a "right-wing extremist group."

The Chamber of Commerce, meanwhile, decried the ad campaign and threatened possible legal action.

"The media should be following the money trail behind this scurrilous group instead of giving credence to its outrageous tactics -- and we are considering legal options with the ad," spokesman Eric Wohlschlegel said.

The Chamber has already taken a lot of heat from the White House. Top aides tried to neutralize the group earlier in the year by doing an end-run around the organization and dealing directly with members, as some big companies, like Apple, peeled off from the Chamber due to disagreements over issues like climate change.

The organization was also not invited to Obama's jobs forum in Washington last week.

But Zeese said the White House has nothing to do with the bounty on Donohue.

"It's individual donors. We have no connection to the White House or unions or anything like that," he said.

Velvet Revolution launched the StoptheChamber campaign in October and started offering a bounty for information on Donohue a month later. A $100,000 reward was increased to $200,000 early this month, thanks to what Zeese called a "handful of larger donors" whom he would not identify.

A full-page print ad that looks like a "wanted" poster out of the wild West began to run in the Washington City Paper this week. It features a head shot of Donohue and offers a tip line for "insiders and whistleblowers possessing information not already in the public domain."

The tip line is live. When FoxNews.com called, the operator asked for "criminal" information about Donohue.

Zeese said that a handful of tips have come in which the group is "pursuing."

He said the hope is to forward any damaging information onto the Justice Department or Congress for further investigation.

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COMMENTARY FROM HOSTILE:
Think about this, a collective group of private people pulled funds together and will pay ANYONE who has info that will lead to the arrest of an individual that disagrees with the standing President while stating there are no existing charges based on their current finds, but if there are we'll pay you to destroy a political opponent for us?

AM I the only one who thinks this is totally wrong and hopefully illegal on some level? I don't care if it was convervatives or liberals, if you pay people to find dirt, they create dirt. Even if it's proven not true later. It doesn't matter, create dirt on our opponent and we'll cover the cost.

The liberal left has sunk to such a new low that this is mind boggling. What is left? To lynch Conservatives in a fashion like those from the Democratic south did against blacks? Left wing liberal progressives don't just lack the ability to discuss issues, they are far beyond steamrolling, they aim for total destruction of anything they don't believe in or agree with.

I mean, total destruction of any opposition. Personally, I like having both points of view where I can clearly see them and choose my path to my own personal consensus. Which is subject to change as my points of view on life change. I hope everyone's point of view should be that flexible.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 06:59 AM

This is incredible. It sounds like my administration is already taking place. Yet I hope the hit is as noble as it sounds...

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 09:03 AM

AM I the only one who thinks this is totally wrong and hopefully illegal on some level? I don't care if it was convervatives or liberals, if you pay people to find dirt, they create dirt. Even if it's proven not true later. It doesn't matter, create dirt on our opponent and we'll cover the cost.

The liberal left has sunk to such a new low that this is mind boggling. What is left? To lynch Conservatives in a fashion like those from the Democratic south did against blacks? Left wing liberal progressives don't just lack the ability to discuss issues, they are far beyond steamrolling, they aim for total destruction of anything they don't believe in or agree with.


Well, if you define the entire conservative right as the Chamber of Commerce, then I might have agreed that it was a search and destroy for anyone they don't believe or agree with. Right now this just looks like one of those tax-evasion groups that go after presidential candidates during the election, except they are going after someone else with power.

At least they are being honest, going out in the media with what their goal is. This is probably the tip of the iceberg when it comes to paying off people for information someone wouldn't want out.

Then again, it is not a nice way of attacking an opponent. It is blatantly saying "Well, we can't stop you in any normal legal way, so we have to dig through your sins and find your skeletons to get you out of office." But at least you know what they are up to, and you know that they are not looking for much more than getting one person off the playing field. There are much more sinister ways to do that.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 10:58 AM

This campaign should be stopped. I mean, I'm in favour of liberal movements, progressive reforms and pretty much everything the Chamber of Commerce seems to be against, so my views would probably benefit from the removal of this Donohue chap, but this is not the way to do it. Campaigns like this will just give the rest of us a bad name and indirectly lend credence to people like Donohue. If you end up having to go for an ad hominem attack on a political figure, it just makes people feel like you've got nothing real on them. Don't attack the man, attack the ideas he represents. That's how you win.

It's like when Nick Griffin (leader of the BNP) was on Question Time over here. If they'd just let him, he would have destroyed himself and dug a hole so deep it would have become his grave, but the other panelists kept cutting him off and ignoring him. It was pathetic. That is not how to run a political campaign. All it achieves is to make people wonder if you would actually be able to find any way to counter their arguments in a real debate.
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