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[feld]

Yeah. Dunno if that's changeable.
Was an interesting and actually good concept, if they'd done any sort of balance.

Well...as PR mentions, our problem is that the Rebellion and New Republic are represented by the same faction. Why not eliminate CSA and break them apart?

[Kitkun]

How to keep each balanced with early/late Empire?

[Ghostrider]

Yeah. Dunno if that's changeable.
Was an interesting and actually good concept, if they'd done any sort of balance.

I don't think they ever had any concept of balance - trying to get the campaigns balanced in terms of starting forces is a real challenge and you would not believe the background spreadsheets I have ended up developing to keep track of the campaigns. My master spreadsheet is in it's 9th variant upgrade and currently sits at about 10MB (and that's Excel). And it's still growing....

And don't get me started on the nightmare of balancing land forces - it took months just to get the Land Assault Patch in a roughly reasonable state.

[Tropical Bob]

Well...as PR mentions, our problem is that the Rebellion and New Republic are represented by the same faction. Why not eliminate CSA and break them apart?

Well, one of the two break-away factions would have to take place of the Underworld, actually, to be able to utilize upgrades. Eliminating the CSA would do nothing to help.

I suppose since no work-arounds have been found yet to get more than three factions to be able to utilize story scripting, that may be the best way to get use out of the third story tag.

[Phoenix Rising]

Well...as PR mentions, our problem is that the Rebellion and New Republic are represented by the same faction. Why not eliminate CSA and break them apart?

Easier said than done...

[Ghostrider]

Easier said than done...

Besides, I Like the CSA - gives a different flavour to the campaigns.

[Tropical Bob]

Ooooooh. You guys adding in the CSA back to the campaigns? The CSA currently happens to be my favorite faction right now.

[Ghostrider]

Ooooooh. You guys adding in the CSA back to the campaigns? The CSA currently happens to be my favorite faction right now.

Currently inconclusive. Will report more once CW/OR/IR/GFFA testing is completed.

I was actually referring to the pro-CSA type worlds in Skyhook & Outer Rim, which use almost exclusively CSA units in their Pirate forces (including Recusants ) - eg Bonadan.
We have added Rebel Invincible-class Heavy Cruisers to some starting forces though.

Ghost

[evilbobthebob]

Ooohh that'll be interesting to engage/use. It would be nice to have the option to play as CSA. Tropical Bob, with occasional help from myself, has been moving towards making them playable, at least in multiplayer.

[Phoenix Rising]

Unfortunately they won't be playable without a fix for the scripting. We're using them with a dead AI to test whether or not having less Pirates improves galactic lag.

[evilbobthebob]

Well, you could just rename the CSA to Underworld everywhere but in the DAT file. As for pirates lagging GC, I can confirm that must be partly the case, because myself and Tropical Bob couldn't get multiplayer GC to work without seriously reducing the number of pirates. If we had standard PR pirate fleets, the GC doesn't load correctly, because the loading time desyncs the players (we think).

[Stormhawk]

Does this post only pertain to the starting forces in the Skyhook campaign, or does it also apply to Alderaan in CW and GFFA?

[Decay]

Just out of curiosity, is there going to be any way to obtain some of the "Illegals" for playable use in either campaign or skirmish?

[Phoenix Rising]

Just out of curiosity, is there going to be any way to obtain some of the "Illegals" for playable use in either campaign or skirmish?

Negative. They're not terribly useful to complement conventional forces anyways unless you have a group of them.