12 replies to this topic

[Elvenlord]

http://www.bbc.co.uk...acific-11818005

Yep. North fired on South, South fired back.

[Soul]

Ah fuck, I hope another Korean war doesn't break out because of this.

[duke_Qa]

Well personally I'm more for a proper conflict here than anywhere else in the world. China can't cover North Korea if NK did this on purpose. SK has a wastly superior military force and allies around. China won't defend NK unless they want to be economically bankrupt by the west cutting all economic deals with them. It will cost many, many lives, but in the long run it probably will be better for everyone.

[Hecthor Doomhammer]

It seems that NK is testing the surrounding countries to see what their responses are.
Will America intervene and will China back NK up?
That sorta thing.
Just look at the Enriched Uranium and nulear missles NK is testing now

[Allathar]

I´d say bring it on. A proper war will hopefully have South Korea easily defeating North Korea, ultimately leading to the liberation of the poor people there.

[Vortigern]

It's World War 3! Let's have a massive end-of-the-world party! Woo!

[duke_Qa]

Might see 100k South-Koreans get caught in the crossfire, but beyond that I wouldn't call it WW3. China would have to be suicidal to back NK's irrational behavior. NK is being an ass with China's customers. I'd say that is good enough excuse to remove their protecting arm from them.

[Phil]

The point is that even though they're a pain in the ass, neither South Korea nor China have any interest in NK's collapse and the resulting millions of refugees. I don't think much will happen.

[duke_Qa]

I think that it is better with a collapse and a tabula rasa than letting them terrorize the world and build nukes and live the fat life while the civillians are being exploited for it.

We would see millions of refugees, but we've seen that sort of stuff before. Tsunamis have displaced such numbers before, aid-organizations have been able to help out in those cases. I don't think SK's economy would be hit badly if they can avoid a saturation-shelling of Seoul.

Alas, it seems that the risk of escalation has died down a few steps now, at least until the new Joint training op with the US and the USS G.W. on it's way, NK might respond poorly and make another mistake. Most likely they'll use this event as leverage in another diplomatic meeting, which people should see through because this is the only way they can get diplomatic clout to get anything going for them; blowing up shit and pretending they are sorry and for X they won't do it again...for now.

Edited by duke_Qa, 24 November 2010 - 07:52 AM.

[Ganon]

I think this whole situation is a little pointless. The North is just basically talkin tough without anything to back it up. I'll be a little surprised if it escalates further.

[Yurisarmy]

It most likely won't be WW3. I hope it dies down soon, as I'm on standby to pull some crazy shiftwork* in case some major shit goes down.

*I'm non-deployable so I won't be on the frontlines, but doesn't matter, being on an island within spitting distance from NK.

[Ganon]

Okay, I have to admit, i'm a little surprised. Mostly at the fact that China is being so stubborn. China is the one that really matters in this situation. North Korea is nothing compared to China. And the idea of China vs. The United States, leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I really hope it doesn't come to that, but I know that China feels like they have something to prove.

...It's like The Cold War all over again. Except this time instead of Russia, it's China we have to deal with. And it doesn't help that certain Chinese officials see North Korea as their East Germany. This could get messy.

Edited by Ganon2020, 28 November 2010 - 12:40 PM.

[duke_Qa]

Yeah, North Korea is a Chinese version of East-Germany. Or at least a buffer-country to keep western influences away from mainland China.

There are probably plenty of Chinese one-feather-chieftains that would do their best at keeping NK around the way it is today, but I dunno how much they have in the say if NK keeps doing idiotic things. The most interesting question is how China would respond if NK got attacked big-time by SK+allies. I'd say they might try to invade from the north and make a "North-North Korea". Then it probably would become a race for Pyongyang and who knows what might happen if both got there at the same time...