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#601 Porter

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 06:41 PM

Alright, it's lot of fantastic work and it is for free. So don't be angry, just more Happyness. The Mod is nearby finished :D



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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:30 PM

You people need to stop acting so childish (even if you are underage). This is huge. A lot of work needs to be put into it (as it allready has). I don't even pretend to know how hard (or easy) it is,so I see no point in complaining. If you wan't it to be done,it must be done properly. Meaning,many little things must be tested and corrected. Or else you will bug the people again with the bugs and imperfections of the mod. Sit back,and relax.

 

By the way, I can't wait for the new mod,give it NOW NOW NOW! :themenace:  :w00t:



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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:59 PM

You people need to stop acting so childish (even if you are underage). This is huge. A lot of work needs to be put into it (as it allready has). I don't even pretend to know how hard (or easy) it is,so I see no point in complaining. If you wan't it to be done,it must be done properly. Meaning,many little things must be tested and corrected. Or else you will bug the people again with the bugs and imperfections of the mod. Sit back,and relax.

 

By the way, I can't wait for the new mod,give it NOW NOW NOW! :themenace:  :w00t:


Hear hear! I absolutely agree. And as I also know that it's gonna be such a wondrous thing playing, experiencing, discovering all the new and amazing stuff with Contra 008, I am truly content to wait for it. Oh all the happy hours I'll have with my friends on multiplayer and against the sneaky AI on skirmish mode, I seriously can hardly wait either! But I do nonetheless...


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:08 AM

I don't even mind waiting and I am being thankful that people spend their time doing this. It was postponed so many times and ever since they always sow new hope just to make us earn even more disappointment.
It would be a lot better for all of us if they simply said nothing if they don't know when it will be released. But that way they might lose some fans who keep coming here every day or week to check if there was a release. They know this. That's why they still lie to us, to keep us here.

TL;DR:
It's great that you are doing this. But I still don't accept being lied to. They don't have the right to do this, just stop calling release dates and deadlines.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:51 AM

I don't even mind waiting and I am being thankful that people spend their time doing this. It was postponed so many times and ever since they always sow new hope just to make us earn even more disappointment.
It would be a lot better for all of us if they simply said nothing if they don't know when it will be released. But that way they might lose some fans who keep coming here every day or week to check if there was a release. They know this. That's why they still lie to us, to keep us here.

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It's great that you are doing this. But I still don't accept being lied to. They don't have the right to do this, just stop calling release dates and deadlines.


I don't understand people like you LotusVale. Why not just sit back and enjoy the thought of playing this in a near future? What can it hurt to be patient? And "lied to"? The makers of this game have never said 100% sure that Contra 008 is coming out with any certainty at this or that date, only guesswork and personal expectations that they're going to release it sooner or later. It's ok for the REAL fans of this mod, and I suspect you LotusVale, is not such a fan. But I can be wrong.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:46 PM

LotusVale has a point. I have been following you guys for over three years now, and you have failed to deliver a product since 007 (aprox 4 years ago?). It's not that we do not appreciate what you guys are doing, you're doing it for absolutely nothing after all, and you have already delivered wonderful work with 007, but still, constant promises without fulfilling them is going to annoy people. In the two years that I've followed you, I think I must've witnessed atleast 2 dozen of postponements, that obviously lead to great disappointment.

 

Trust me on this, it is better to regulary release a small update than it is to release one massive update once every 2 - 3 years. I know you guys are polishing contra 008 as best you can, but after its release, I recommend releasing small update once every 3 - 6 months or so. Not only will this prevent you from constantly having to postpone an update, but it will also build a stronger community. Because, you know, you'll find more life on a graveyard than on this forum right now.

 

You can see what effect it is having with mods like Rise of the Reds. The forums are alive, it has a relatively strong community and they are regulary releasing an update.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:37 PM

I have been following you guys for over three years now, and you have failed to deliver a product since 007 (aprox 4 years ago?).

The project team members were very few before the release of 007. After 007 release, the community grew up. Contra became more popular, especially among Russian people. They reported many balance issues and bugs. Creator added them to his to-do list. Then people wanted to see the ugly models replaced. He took it into account too. Many of the current project team members were not in the team back then. When Woody (modeller and skinner) left, Creator was on his own, working on graphics alone. Then, fortunately, Dcesarec joined and replaced him. The first years after 007 release were very hard for Creator. Progress on the mod was slower. Not to mention Creator has been working alone many times (mostly in the first Contra versions). He was still motivated even with almost no help from other people.

 

constant promises without fulfilling them is going to annoy people.

People never stop asking about release date. Even in Rise of the Reds, which you gave as an example. And their last release was recently. The questions about release date became too annoying for Creator and he set the release date for the end of 2012. And he actually tried to accomplish this. But things didn't turn out as planned. He was exhausted because of unexpected real life problems and didn't have enough time to insert all new models. I don't believe he will talk about release dates again. Let's take Diablo III as an example. Diablo fans haven't seen a sequel for 10 years. It was announced in 2008. Blizzard take their time, they don't rush. They didn't lose fans because of the development years, but, well, some fans didn't like it and returned back to Diablo II.

 

I recommend releasing small update once every 3 - 6 months or so.

This will probably happen with 009. We expect that there will be more public Beta versions. The reason is because we want to polish 009 as much as possible. This requires community testing and feedback.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:19 PM

This forum is not dead. When lil tasman, predator, casojin and i became project team members, we moved to "Contra Staff" section and we dont post here about suggestions and stuff. Those discussions are now on our private forum. This forum is active EVERY day, because there is something new done every day, take a look at this sneak peak:

 

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As for fans, most of them are on redsys, and on mod db. When we release 008 version, we will remake our site, and i guarantee you that people will come back when they see it and try it.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:53 PM

@predator

 

 

<<People never stop asking about release date.>>

 

I know. But there is a big difference between an annoying member who constantly screams about when the next release is going to be, and empty promises coming from the developers themselves about the next release date, only to find with great disappointment that the release will be postponed again for the 20th time. My point was, that you guys took way too much hay on your fork. Instead of making a massive new update with huge changes, like all the models replaced, fixing balancing issues, new units, buildings, voices and the like, you should've took smaller steps reaching that very same goal. Just an example: after 007 you could, with numerous updates, work towards 008:

 

1st update: fixing balancing issues based on the feedback of the community

2nd update: the introduction of new models

3rd update: the introduction of new units

4th update: see how the new units fit, fix balancing issues if needed

5th update: implement new voices

 

It's just an example obviously, but still.

 

@dcesarec

 

Do those threads contain state-secrets or something? Why aren't they open to the public? If you'd open them up, perhaps the community will become more involved in the suggestion/idea developement of 008.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:57 PM

Yes, those threads are top secret and we cant show it. Too much to explain, we just cant let them be public until we release it. Some things we want to be surprise too.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:39 PM

I see.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:58 PM

Well if you need voiceactors, call me up, guys. I recently started to voice in RA2 mods.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 02:58 PM

I'm From Thailand, Contra mod  It's Awesome.  I Like It

 

But . . . Can You Change Picture Of Generals ?  I think it's funny

 

Tell Me Please   . . .  This will be completed this month

 

 

Sorry I am weak in English



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Posted 22 March 2013 - 04:32 PM

I'm From Thailand, Contra mod  It's Awesome.  I Like It

 

But . . . Can You Change Picture Of Generals ?  I think it's funny

 

Tell Me Please   . . .  This will be completed this month

 

 

Sorry I am weak in English

The old Generals' pictures will be returned and the Beta will be released this month.



#615 S.Cohen

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:03 PM

Sounds good.



#616 Legion2012

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:19 AM

Lets pray Contra Fans.

 

I see this moment severals times in every month !!!

 

 

Just kidding !!!! Go Contra Team your impresive work take time i know

 

We wait !!!



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Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:22 PM

It's fitting that the Beta is coming this month of March, as March is coming from the word Mars (the God of War) it is right in line with Contra!



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 06:18 PM

It's fitting that the Beta is coming this month of March, as March is coming from the word Mars (the God of War) it is right in line with Contra!

 

 

 

Are u sure ??? so 6 days left ........

Lets hope for the best 

Tks for the BIG GOOD news !!!!!


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:15 PM

It's fitting that the Beta is coming this month of March, as March is coming from the word Mars (the God of War) it is right in line with Contra!

 

 

 

Are u sure ??? so 6 days left ........

Lets hope for the best 

Tks for the BIG GOOD news !!!!!


Can't be sure, but the reply three levels up from mine, was: "The old Generals' pictures will be returned and the Beta will be released this month."
So if that's true it should be out this month of March. But if it isn't I CAN WAIT!



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 08:00 PM

4 days left   :thumbsuphappy:






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