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[P.O._210877]

i would sugget a few units for starting forces for both sides munificents, lucrehulks, providences, mandaters, at-te, at-rt, hailfire, spider droids, banking clan frigates, arquitens light cruisers, consular cruisers, nebulon b2s, neutron star, bulk cruisers and correilian battleships and cruisers.

Anything else?

A great deal of those models do exist and are available. Any particular reason why they were not incorporated in the mod? Even if only as they are, they could get properly rigged, fine tuned or whatever after they become PR assets? Leaving them "on the back shelve" so to speak. Even better, if someone in this community wants to learn the trade and give a little back...

Edited by P.O._210877, 05 June 2012 - 11:45 AM.

[Phoenix Rising]

Even though most do exist in a form that can be incorporated into EaW, I don't necessarily have access to the models for use with PR. I can ask, but mostly it's a question of priority. I'm also trying to keep the art direction consistent between related classes (let's face it: mixed TIE models are an eyesore and the disparity could subconsciously affect player build decisions), which sometimes hamstrings us, even though models are available.

[Darth Stalin]

@PR:

That said, you can still count on some major changes/additions to gameplay going forward.

I can write a LUA plan for the AI to build heroes.

So maybe the first "addition" would be a .LUA file to be downloaded that increases the use of heroes by the AI?

[Phoenix Rising]

It's not that simple... not even close.

[Phoenix Rising]

3D digital art, unfortunately, isn't something that can be picked up overnight. I don't even want to guess at how many years Nertea has been doing it and he's formally trained. I spent years modding Dark Forces for personal use before I ever released anything to the public.

[Kitkun]

Yeah, I tried picking up 3D art overnight and soon ragequit. And I was only trying to modify an existing model.

On the topic of AI, I think it's not building research stations which is limiting it's upgrading a lot. Finally started seeing Acclamator and Strike VIs alongside XM-8 (!) Nova Wings, but I've yet to see anything from a lvl 2, 4, or 5 shipyard upgraded. Mostly it spams Praetor, ISD, and TSD Is at me. Also, it doesn't seem to take into account heroes or ground to space weapons, nor realize that it can't bring all that spam in at once, so I get endless battles of it hopelessly outclassed.

Also, please kill the ground chase system. Go on the defense against airspeeders, rage as your units drive across the map.

Edited by Kitkun, 08 June 2012 - 03:25 AM.

[Phoenix Rising]

It's hard to verify with the interface as it is, but the equation is done in a way that ensures that a Research Station is built almost immediately if the faction doesn't have one. After that, the AI looks to put them on 10% of their planets. Once a planet has a Research Station, the AI will seek to build as many different types of Orbital Shipyards as possible (remember, AI has no interface). That doesn't mean that the AI necessarily uses that planet to build research, however. Rewriting the build plans is one of the closest steps on the AI road map though.

I haven't really done anything with the chase ranges for land yet, so they're pretty much vanilla. I'll try to address that for v1.3.

[Kitkun]

Ah, I think what I'm seeing might be that it has a couple research stations as part of it's starting forces but not the slots to build all the shipyards.
Yet another thing I've probably brought up before... Seems like the AI picks a target and then just goes after it only. No idea what it's criteria is, though. It's repeatedly attacked Yavin 4 despite it having a massive defense fleet and no actual value, while it could take a number of lightly defended systems with little fuss but doesn't. I've had planets with no ships for defense for the entire campaign. Right next to several enemy planets. In short, targets of opportunity.

Suspected as much regarding chase ranged. It's just driving me batty that my gleeful squishing of Rebels is interrupted because my army recruits only people with ADHD.

Modding, it never ends. Now back to upgrading illegal ships for me.

Edited by Kitkun, 09 June 2012 - 05:13 PM.

[Phoenix Rising]

Assuming it's Skyhook, there's a big priority boost both offensively and defensively to victory planets, which would explain an obsession over Yavin 4. Otherwise, not sure - I expect to rewrite the planet value equation soon.

[Kitkun]

Oh, duh. Yeah, it's Skyhook. Haven't seen the Death Star since the Empire finished it a long time ago, though.

[Darth Stalin]

Hey, is it possible to increase the number of planets in GFFA, even if it would mean cutting down some Imperial/Rebel/Pirate forces? I like the campaign but the 100 planets is... just too small to conquer

I've tried to do something like that, but... so far I failed:
http://forums.revora...648#entry889648

[Phoenix Rising]

Of course it's possible. I'm just not looking to add more until the lag is at least manageable, and I don't think we're quite there yet for some players.

[Henry X]

Can't remember if I mentioned this already, but how about the XR-85 tank? And the TIE Crawler (Century Tank)?

[Phoenix Rising]

They'd fit right into Shadow Hand, wouldn't they?

[P.O._210877]

They'd fit right into Shadow Hand, wouldn't they?

You wouldn't tease us, now, wouldn't you?

[Kitkun]

World Devastators are quite the pain to fight already... I support beefing up Imperial forces even more.

[Phoenix Rising]

Just an observation. I will say that units with instant utility, such as those, are prioritized a little higher.

[johnchm.10]

yeah, 2 units that i never understood why they were included in the original game. the TIE Mauler and the Tartan gunship. they had the TIE Crawler and Lancer frigate they could have used in the exact same roles.

[P.O._210877]

True but it is now well established that the major companies did built classes of ships that are in direct competition with each other. After all why not? DMC basically offers their products, RSD, KDY and CEC, etc. all do the same. My way of looking at it is "geographical", Moffs must build their Sector Fleets with ships purchased with shipwrights in their sectors, or they have specials connections with a/many corporation(s), etc. It's a big galaxy...