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#1 Frank_K

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 12:41 PM

just a little off-topic and inspiration for modders ;)
- don't act on it, just write what bugs you too ;)
- don't take it serious, I know it's the game engine, but I want to write it down, and I know a few of them are already in the FAQ

buildings and ruins,
- why can chrono legionairs let a civilian building vanish into thin air, and the laser weapons of NOD create a mess of ruins?
- why won't military buildings at destruction be ruins?
- why can't I clean (destroy) ruins?
- why can't I destroy the pool?
- why wouldn't destroy an nuclear bomb civilian buildings to the ashes?
- why can't I clean a whole area?

the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire...
- why won't the trees burn down in a row when I let my flamethrower attack?
- why won't the trees get pulverised by an nuclear blast?
- where is the tiberian storm?

infantry and dogs
- why can't rocket-troopers and higher infantry like snipers and comando cyborgs be deployed in civilian buildings?
- why can't the infantry deployed in own military buildings or TSFS buildings?

nuclear fallout
- I would prefer if nuclear bombs / broken nuclear facilities would leave a radiation cloud of some longer period of time...

air units
- why isn't there a banshee MK-V which vaporizes everything below it especially trees
- why isn't there a transport ship which can hold 2 MCVs?


What could we do to change it?

Edited by Frank_K, 11 October 2011 - 05:29 AM.


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Posted 03 November 2011 - 09:45 AM

buildings and ruins,
- why can chrono legionairs let a civilian building vanish into thin air, and the laser weapons of NOD create a mess of ruins? *From what I have seen that's in the coding, the legionare's weapon vanishes w/e it kills, most if not all civ buildings leave rubble, base structures don't because if you have several buildings destroyed and rubble left there you may be left with no where to build your base, limitations in the game engine don't allow for rubble to me built over, would be cool if everything left rubble.*

- why won't military buildings at destruction be ruins?*See above*

- why can't I clean (destroy) ruins?*Game engine limitations*

- why can't I destroy the pool?*Game engine limitations, it's actually considered terrain, and you can't, destroy that*

- why wouldn't destroy an nuclear bomb civilian buildings to the ashes?*You mean the rubble left behind? Why doesn't it destroy it? Game engine limitations*

- why can't I clean a whole area?*Clean rubble?*

the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire...
- why won't the trees burn down in a row when I let my flamethrower attack?*They did in original C&C, sadly they don't anymore, would be cool if they could*

- why won't the trees get pulverised by an nuclear blast?*This I can't remember, because if you force fire on trees with most weapons will destroy them*

- where is the tiberian storm?*You mean Ion Storm? Should be possible to put them in, in some form with the Ares patch now*

infantry and dogs
- why can't rocket-troopers and higher infantry like snipers and comando cyborgs be deployed in civilian buildings?*They can be allowed in, FS would have to change it in the coding, I personally don't see why most infantry cant go inside for cover to fire out of, or just for protection.*

- why can't the infantry deployed in own military buildings or TSFS buildings?*????????*

nuclear fallout
- I would prefer if nuclear bombs / broken nuclear facilities would leave a radiation cloud of some longer period of time... *It's possible,but would it upset balance? Could possibly work.*

air units
- why isn't there a banshee MK-V which vaporizes everything below it especially trees? *You really want to own some trees huh? I thought Banshees were in if I recall*

- why isn't there a transport ship which can hold 2 MCVs?*You talking about the Allies,Soviets and Yuris amphibious transports?*
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#3 Frank_K

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:42 PM

*From what I have seen that's in the coding, the legionare's weapon vanishes w/e it kills, most if not all civ buildings leave rubble, base structures don't because if you have several buildings destroyed and rubble left there you may be left with no where to build your base, limitations in the game engine don't allow for rubble to me built over, would be cool if everything left rubble.*


- why can't I clean (destroy) ruins?*Game engine limitations*

I would love it, if
- everything would leave rubble
- if the rubble could be sold / harvested / vaporized

- why can't I destroy the pool?
*Game engine limitations, it's actually considered terrain, and you can't, destroy that*

couldn't u do that in Tiberian Sun? at least the layers were reducable by the artilleries.
would be awesome if this could be readjusted into RA2


- why wouldn't destroy an nuclear bomb civilian buildings to the ashes?
*You mean the rubble left behind? Why doesn't it destroy it? Game engine limitations*


- why can't I clean a whole area?*Clean rubble?*

that should be fixed... I want to get rid of rubble


the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire...
- why won't the trees burn down in a row when I let my flamethrower attack?
*They did in original C&C, sadly they don't anymore, would be cool if they could*

yeah =)

- why won't the trees get pulverised by an nuclear blast?
*This I can't remember, because if you force fire on trees with most weapons will destroy them*

so we should add trees to the possibility of destruction by nuclear bombs... It's looking strange, when I eradicate a whole base, and the trees won't recognize it.

- where is the tiberian storm?*You mean Ion Storm? Should be possible to put them in, in some form with the Ares patch now*

would be wonderful

infantry and dogs
- why can't rocket-troopers and higher infantry like snipers and comando cyborgs be deployed in civilian buildings?*They can be allowed in, FS would have to change it in the coding, I personally don't see why most infantry cant go inside for cover to fire out of, or just for protection.*

I'm looking forward to that.

- why can't the infantry deployed in own military buildings or TSFS buildings?
*????????*

I can allow certain infantry trops to enter civilian buildings, but why can't I allow them into my own building... well exept yuri in his power plants

nuclear fallout
- I would prefer if nuclear bombs / broken nuclear facilities would leave a radiation cloud of some longer period of time... *It's possible,but would it upset balance? Could possibly work.*



air units
- why isn't there a banshee MK-V which vaporizes everything below it especially trees? *You really want to own some trees huh? I thought Banshees were in if I recall*

- why isn't there a transport ship which can hold 2 MCVs?*You talking about the Allies,Soviets and Yuris amphibious transports?*


well I want to be able to build a bomber who can destroy a big area of trees... I mean c'mon I don't want to eradicate one tree... I want to eradicade a whole forest, so I can build there ^^

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:21 AM

- why can chrono legionairs let a civilian building vanish into thin air, and the laser weapons of NOD create a mess of ruins?

+ Chronoweapon Logic totally removes the target object. So it just removes it entirely without applying the Smudge Effects the Weapon usually does which is caused by Scorch=yes on the Animation.

 

 

- why won't military buildings at destruction be ruins?

+ It'll hamper gameplay, while it can be done so by new tags available Ares it'll also need revamping on every single building as it will need rubble frames for every type of theater.

 

- why can't I clean (destroy) ruins?

+ Engine Limitations

 

- why can't I destroy the pool?

+ Pool is actually a Terrain File so it can't be destroyed. Terrain Deformation doesn't exist in RA2/YR At all.

 

- why wouldn't destroy an nuclear bomb civilian buildings to the ashes?

+ Buildings have Rubble=yes set to them so they will always leave behind rubble no matter what unless modified on the code.

 

- why can't I clean a whole area?

+ Because your not the almighty Janitor.

- why won't the trees burn down in a row when I let my flamethrower attack?

+ Burning Tree Logic is also non-existant in RA2/YR

 

- why won't the trees get pulverised by an nuclear blast?

+ Not sure if FS-21 removed Wood=yes on the WH of the nuclear explosion.

 

- where is the tiberian storm?

+ Ion Storm Logic got reworked by WW into Weather Storm Logic

- why can't rocket-troopers and higher infantry like snipers and comando cyborgs be deployed in civilian buildings?

+ Gameplay balance maybe?

 

- why can't the infantry deployed in own military buildings or TSFS buildings?

+ whaaaa?

 

- I would prefer if nuclear bombs / broken nuclear facilities would leave a radiation cloud of some longer period of time...

+ FS-21 probably changed how long it takes to dissipate/ He also probably hasn't added particle for nuke stuff probably..

air units
- why isn't there a banshee MK-V which vaporizes everything below it especially trees

+ WHY DO YOU HATE TREES! THEY GIVE US OXYGEN!!!!111!!!1

 

- why isn't there a transport ship which can hold 2 MCVs?

+ Ask FS-21...


Edited by Atomic_Noodles, 20 September 2013 - 02:22 AM.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:07 PM

+ WHY DO YOU HATE TREES! THEY GIVE US OXYGEN!!!!111!!!1

I guess you replied in this (a bit old :ohmy: ) topic just to post this? :p
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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:17 AM

Yep I should definitely wear my glasses next time then too... xD

 

And besides the fun part is proving to people who post suggestions about whats possible & what's not...


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Posted 09 March 2015 - 07:03 AM

 

*From what I have seen that's in the coding, the legionare's weapon vanishes w/e it kills, most if not all civ buildings leave rubble, base structures don't because if you have several buildings destroyed and rubble left there you may be left with no where to build your base, limitations in the game engine don't allow for rubble to me built over, would be cool if everything left rubble.*


- why can't I clean (destroy) ruins?*Game engine limitations*
 

I would love it, if
- everything would leave rubble
- if the rubble could be sold / harvested / vaporized

- why wouldn't destroy an nuclear bomb civilian buildings to the ashes?
*You mean the rubble left behind? Why doesn't it destroy it? Game engine limitations*


- why can't I clean a whole area?*Clean rubble?*

that should be fixed... I want to get rid of rubble
 

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