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#1 duke_Qa

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 03:54 PM

Figured this is relevant for the games nations playeth: The continuing expansion of Fascism combined with capitalism in China.
Based primarily on the this Truthout article:

There was a time when China was referred to as a society which was Communist or Post-Communist; today, the terms Authoritarian Capitalist or Capitalist with Asian/Chinese Characteristics are more common. However, there is a new term that appears to be increasingly applicable to the operation of the Chinese state and its impact on the lives of Chinese people and, above all, the education of Chinese youth born in the 1990s. It is increasingly clear that China is the most powerful, mature and internationally accepted fascist state in global history and its status as such should cause us all a great deal of concern.
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While Chinese rarely express an open desire for imperialist expansion, an ideological sense of the inevitability of such expansion is a hidden part of national political consciousness. Rather than being self-admitted expansionists, Chinese expansion is instead expressed by characterizing foreign nations as "part of China" which must one day be reconquered and brought into the fold of the motherland to redress the historic injustices of foreign domination by restoring territorial integrity. The fact that these Asian nations are not part of the People's Republic of China (PRC), as they are supposed to be, is yet further ammunition for a sense of national grievance and humiliation. Press university students on the matter and one will quite easily be told that not only Taiwan and Tibet, but Mongolia, the Koreas, much or all of South-East Asia, Japan and most of the Philippines are somehow "part of China." The argument relies on obscure racial and cultural connections that somehow make these independent nations part of a larger Han empire that - while never having existed in the past as a national entity and, even on a cultural level, has no basis in linguistic and genetic links - must one day be re-established for Chinese dignity and territorial integrity.
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If the Chinese fascist regime is permitted by the international community to continue its rise to prominence, then the consequences will be borne by the people of democratic nations and we have already seen the early stages of this global trend. A powerful fascist state of such maturity and size in the world will increasingly come to determine political debate in nominally democratic countries as the economic advantages of such a regime draws more and more financial resources away from less "efficient" political systems. If China continues to be able to use its fascist state apparatus to attract investment at the cost of liberal democratic nations, then the characteristics of these nations will tend toward increasing fascism in an imitative defensive response. This trend is already far advanced and if it remains unchecked by the active engagement and protest of constituent peoples in the form of actively entrenching our essential social and political norms of individual rights and egalitarian application of the rule of law, then we will witness the slow erosion of the democratic freedoms that were fought for nearly 70 years ago. It is no longer adequate to harp on about "human rights." The necessity of economically isolating regimes which fail to meet certain normative political and legal standards is of paramount importance to the long-term survival of the idea of pluralist government which protects a measure of individual freedom.


So, Chinese fascism combined with a high-functioning economy is not only going to be a big problem for us in case of war, it will be a bigger problem in case of prolonged peace, because the efficiency of such a system will indirectly and directly taint our own rich and powerful to compete. Either out of greed for equal opportunity of money, or out of fear and avarice in an attempt to avoid marginalization, bankruptcy and being directly bought up.


If we were to battle fascism today, I dunno if we'd have the politicians or willpower to actually do it.

Edited by duke_Qa, 06 February 2012 - 03:58 PM.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:14 AM

It appears the prodigal son of the Chinese Empire may have some very cruel plans in store for us in the near future. The throne of China is still warm and yet we already suspect foul play! How dramatic...

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 09:38 PM

It would be a bigger problem for the US now that China has an alliance with Russia:

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:05 AM

China has been in cahoots with Russia since... well... Communism.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:57 AM

Pretty much, that alliance is about as useful as the Stalin/Adolf alliance of pre-ww2. Russia got shit-tons of resources and 10% of the population of China, China ain't got resources and a increasingly hungry economy. If it wasn't for pretty careful politicians the Chinese would have been at war over Russia ages ago.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:48 AM

China was indeed allied with The Soviet Union, but after the dead of Stalin, the alliance began to crumble, because both of them wanted to be the communist super-power. Now Russia and China want to reestablish the alliance, and it's not like the one from Stalin/Hitler, which was more like a "Ceasefire, for now" pact, no this is more like a Eastern NATO.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:14 PM

It's sort of like 2 old guys with cancer teaming up.... unless one of them is Clint Eastwood, not much is going to happen.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:45 PM

We also have to add another player to the SE asian game, and that is India. They will be a big player during the next few decades. I wouldn't doubt if they eventually have a REAL modern space program.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 12:42 PM

I've never seen India as a global threat, but I might have been deceived by their cunning English. Besides that, India also have separatists along the Chinese border, maoists revolutionaries that are waging one of the world's most uncovered guerrilla wars, and muslims around Pakistan is a story of its own. You could say that India is probably quite involved in Afganistan proxy wars.

Beyond that they got nukes and Pakistan as their prime target of hostile interest. But it wouldn't surprise me if India suddenly started shipping millions of settlers to Africa and hijacked land there.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 11:34 PM

I've never seen India as a global threat, but I might have been deceived by their cunning English. Besides that, India also have separatists along the Chinese border, maoists revolutionaries that are waging one of the world's most uncovered guerrilla wars, and muslims around Pakistan is a story of its own. You could say that India is probably quite involved in Afganistan proxy wars.

Beyond that they got nukes and Pakistan as their prime target of hostile interest. But it wouldn't surprise me if India suddenly started shipping millions of settlers to Africa and hijacked land there.

Where are you getting this info duke? You got me curious now.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 02:12 PM

Old post, old news: My information is basically extracted from news websites that spew forth tons of useless propaganda with a few grains of truth.

That there is a Maoist uprising in certain zones of India is common but hushed up knowledge. The west and India consider that a proxy war that does not need more attention than it already has, I'm sure the Chinese have more journalists covering it than we do. It is most likely encourage by them to begin with anyway.

That India is involved with Pakistan is also pretty logical(but very hard to prove, as that would be million-dollar intelligence worth a few lives). Their local arch-enemy is balancing on the edge of the abyss: India would love nothing more than see them tear themselves apart over superstitions, religion, and old grudges. The icing of the cake for them would be if India got away from that pandemonium without a scratch, thus the best solution is a proxy-war with funding and whatnot to idiots in the borderlands between Pakistan/Afghanistan. But this is mostly me speculating like some mediocre GNP Sherlock, so don't take my word for it. One might also argue that India would stay away to avoid the risk of being caught red-handed and being used in nationalistic propaganda from Pakistan to unite itself. It has been done before at least.

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