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[Bofur]

Is there a way to prevent the geometry issues produced from scaling objects in worldbuilder?
As when you scale, say, a wall, units can walk and shoot through it.
I'm not after the usual "use impassability and put normal scale objects inside the scaled one" answer.
I'm sure that there was another way used in the making of NJM's Minas Tirith map.
Anway, any ideas?

[_Haldir_]

Other than the two options you pointed out, no, i don't think so. Not using Worldbuilder at least.
It might be possible with a map.ini to scale an objects geometry to match an object, but you'd have to ask someone who knows more on coding than me. I know it's possible to 'displace' an objects geometry (essentially 'removing' it), so it's not a stretch to think that you could scale it instead. Although, it would also mean that all copies of that unit would be affected. I.e. if you also had a regular sized wall/building/rock/whatever, it would have geometry too large for it's scale.

Alternatively, if it's for a mod and you have a decent modeller, you could remodel the object and code it in as a separate object with the proper geometry. A neater solution, but whether the map justifies all that work is something again.

Have you tried asking NJM? Or someone else from the SEE team perhaps?

[Bofur]

I tried doing the scale object in a map.ini, it's just that it still seemed to work just the same as if i'd scaled it in WB.
I will try asking someone from the SEE team, it's just that Naz has been inactive for a while...

[Nertea]

You need to resize the actual geometry in the object file, not the object scale. Generally it's located at the bottom of an object entry.

[Bofur]

So if you scaled the object by 2 in the map, you would need to double these values:

GeometryMajorRadius = 99.0
GeometryMinorRadius = 35.0
GeometryHeight = 116.0

[Ridder Geel]

Something like that yes, but there may be some slight rounding errors so to say, since the objects might be a bit bigger than simply twice the amount in the geometry. But yes that is the idea.

[Irenë Hawnetyne]

If it's something you want to reuse over multiple maps, you may want to consider creating a ChildObject of the original in the main mod's file(s).

[Bofur]

T'will be just for the map you just saw in the mapping topic Fell.

[Nertea]

Also consider that if there is an Offset parameter for each element you'll have to change that too.

Imagine if your building was made of 3 smaller buildings, and each one had a box for geometry. If you just increased the size of each box, you wouldn't get a correct result - the boxes would be bigger, but as the whole building is bigger, each box would also have to be moved.