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#21 duke_Qa

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 11:24 AM

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:24 PM

The biggest issue with Romney is that you have absolutely no idea what he truly thinks. He's promising everything to everyone - at the same time!

That and he's Mormon. It hasn't even been much of a topic in the election campaign so far, surprisingly. I'm just not sure what I'm to think of an intelligent, educated man believing in stuff like that. Then again, who knows if he actually believes it or if it's yet another façade.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:22 PM

That and he's Mormon.

Har! Prejudice barbarian! But yea... just stating that he's mormon is enough to discredit everything. And the fact that he hid that detail for quite some time is sort of greifing since he can't even stand by his own beliefs with some conviction. I said the same about Obama a long while back... he hid a lot of his African heritage (har) and only started talking about it when people started calling him out on it in suspicion, and rightfully so since they can't even get his birth certificate in order. But it's not the fact these people are terrible at religion or not American in any way, it's that they suck at scaled politics. They're great 21st century politicians, and that is NOT a title you want to have. No ma'am.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:47 PM

I like the argument that even if he wasn't born in 'Merica , his mother is American and he would be a legal citizen anyway, meaning it would do jack-shit to stop him from becoming a president. Would probably cause some sort of reaction in the polls, but eh, they've had 5 years now to find something.

Beyond that, Mormonism yeah. Richard dawkins gave the smackdown to a vocalist from the band The Killers on a scandinavian talk-show. Can be seen here. The beginning has the interview with the guy talking a bit about his faith, and then we get some pretty straightforward speech from Dawkins that makes this guy look like he's about to explode. Alas, he got chased off before anything could come off it, but its clear he didn't like the message.

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 07:01 PM

I would just ignore Mormons, but they actually impede on my real-life profession and tick me off. They make fake artifacts and history... and have worked hard and successful to get some of that history mixed into reality. As an archaeologist, I wouldn't mind to see Mormons faced with a sudden burst of genocide.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 07:17 PM

You work as a archaeologist? hunting dustbunnies? :p

But yeah, mormonism is crazy, but I liked the south-park episode about it, as it brought a bit of a grey-zone to it.


Anyway, Samuel L. Jackson have something to say, and I dare say its less brain-damaging than Chuck... But only just :)


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:22 AM

VP Debates happened and the world didn't care.

Ze Frank made a video reviewing the VP Debates with all the facts.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 12:27 AM

Follow the doughnut hole. The doughnut hole. .

Edited by {IP}Pasidon, 14 October 2012 - 12:27 AM.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 02:59 PM

Haha, pretty good that video Rad.



Here's another lawls-video, love Lincoln in it.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 08:05 AM

Seems that the O-man started retaliating this time around, which is partially what I've expected. I suspected that it wasn't too bad for the democrats that he lost the first one, as now people have lower expectations of what they'll get from him, which is handy.

I suspect this election should go Obama's way, but with all the money going around you can't say for sure. It doesn't help that a two-party system makes for very polarized politics that fights for the few percentages around 50.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:03 PM

Unlike Chuck Norris, I can't see communism in Obama. Really. Obama isn't socialist or anything of this kind. He defends private properties and companies, so he can't be communist anyway. If you think that USA is getting communist if the 'Obama-care' thing, then Canada, France, UK, Brazil and many other countries are communists for years, because they have a public health system (although the brazilian one is particularly horrible).
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 01:29 PM

There's no place in the world that has something remotely close to communism. socialism also rare. Problem is that most conservatives in western nations have regressed to neo-liberal market ideologies that work fine for the rich in good times but terrible for the poor in bad times. The new deal and 70-90% taxes of the post ww2 era weren't considered socialist back then, but it certainly would have been painted that way today.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 07:53 AM

This is a great discussion, but I have one little nitpicky issue.

I like the argument that even if he wasn't born in 'Merica , his mother is American and he would be a legal citizen anyway, meaning it would do jack-shit to stop him from becoming a president.


In fact it would. Un-like all other public offices, where just being a citizen is enough. To hold the office of the president you need to be born in the U.S.

A great example is Arnold Schwarzenegger. Even though he was Austrian born, he was able to become Governor of California. A state that boasts an economy that falls within the top 10 in the world. However he could never be president.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:31 PM

Ah, well I read that line somewhere and thought it to be logical that if either of your parents are "purebred Americans" and you were born in an airplane or something over international waters, it wouldn't matter. Oh well, laws written before airplanes and tourism/jobs abroad were common.

On the topic of the last debate, it seems that Obama won that one too, but that it really doesn't matter right now. It seems that this time it is only the president who loses points if you loses a presidential debate. At least we got some funny quips about battleships, horses and bayonets not being in the military anymore.

I just hope now that the voters get out there and vote for someone else than this used-car salesman. Kerry lost on flip-flopping so I don't see why this should be any different; Mitt turns his coat after the crowd so fast I'm surprised repubs still back him. I guess the party is more important than the policies, which he seems to only have two of: less taxes for the rich and less care for those that need it. As Clinton mentioned "you didn't clean up the mess we made fast enough, so let us back in".

Oh well, lets hope things clear up in the next two weeks. I'm not going to be a happy camper with another Bush figure running the world police.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 03:14 AM

Ah, it seems election day is approaching for Tuesday. So what are our predictions?

Thanks for asking, Pas. I know it'll be a day of victory for that blubbering baboon, Obama. Nothing has been more obvious. Regardless of him proving to be incompetent, just as I predicted 4 years ago, people's ignorance has still yet to be cured. As a Colonial Republican, I'm still obligated to root for the man that lets me keep my guns, regardless of him being a cowardly Mormon.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:16 AM

I'm voting for Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party this Tuesday. I've lost confidence in Obama and have never had any in Romney, so I'd be wasting my vote on either of them because I don't believe in them. The Libertarians only need 5% of votes to get recognized as a legitimate third party along with the Republicans and Democrats and that could go a long way towards getting away from the worst aspects of American politics - the two-party system and, hopefully, the electoral college. I feel like this election isn't so much important for its immediate results, but what it could mean for the future. We'll see what happens come Wednesday.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:41 AM

Hmmm... do the Libertarians actually have a place this election? I actually wouldn't complain if they get the votes Tuesday.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:02 PM

Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate, actually has the most support of the candidates that aren't with the Big Two. If he can manage to get that five percent of votes then there's a legitimate chance that the two-party system could be changed over the next couple of years.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:26 PM

Even though I'm definitely not a libertarian I would seriously consider voting for Gary Johnson, just to try to establish a third force in this circus.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:32 PM

I wouldn't have minded more parties in the US, but the spoiler effect is a troublesome thing.

If the American system was open to letting losing parties send their vote over to whomever they felt was closest to their ideals. You'd be able to vote for your favorite party and if they failed to win, at least your vote didn't give your most hated opponent a bigger chance at winning.

On the topic of libertarianism, I'm pretty sure most of the republican right wingers are very close to that economically... But socially they want government to stop you from getting married to whomever you want and abortions and science and all that stuff, which I suspect libertarians should ideologically be all for. But libertarians in America doesn't seem to steal only from repubs/democrats so it shouldn't be the end of the world. It also depends a lot on how close the race is in your state, which there's a 4/5th chance its a no-brainer.

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