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Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:31 PM
so just out of curiosity, what would be the best configuration to play this mod so far as hardware, etc. are concerned?
every so often i go to the cyberpower site and newegg and put together a nice rig for when this one goes (and im seriously thinking about switching from laptop back to desktop.)
Edited by johnchm.10, 19 March 2013 - 07:34 PM.
evilbobthemapper
Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:38 PM
All you really need is a processor that has strong per-core processing power, so basically anything modern from Intel. The rest of the stuff will always be way in advance of what the game requires.
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Traveller in the Balance
Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:28 PM
A decent graphics card won't hurt either, for today's hardware I'd say a mid range GPU will do the trick nicely.
If it's hard then it's worth doing.
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Traveller in the Balance
Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:23 AM
In so many words... Yep.
Personally I'd advise 8Gbs of RAM, anything beyond that would fall into the "serious" investment or the "enthusiasts" market. Opting for less than 8Gbs would be going "against the current" so to speak.
Edited by P.O._210877, 20 March 2013 - 05:24 AM.
If it's hard then it's worth doing.
- Alcor, Alcor pardonne-moi mais je ne veux pas que tu meurs. Je ne veux
pas que la planète bleue soit mise à feu et à sang par ces monstres. Je
me battrai pour les empêcher de détruire ce qui est devenue ma Terre.
Goldorak m'aidera. Au besoin, j'irai jusqu'au camp de la Lune Noire
puisque c'est là que Véga et ses monstres ont établi leur base. Et je la
détruirai.
Actarus
ALL HUMANS ARE VERMIN IN THE EYES OF MORBO!
Posted 20 March 2013 - 12:45 PM
well, the laptop im running now is running 4,so i would almost certainly go with 8 or more. of course, the way i see it is that the higher spec you make your computer today, the more time you have before it becomes outdated. that said, on cyberpowerpc.com, they give you the option of having up to 32 gbs of ram. if i need that much ram, i can always go out to microcenter and get more ram, lol. incidently, because apparently, according to one of my friends, my choices on hardware suck, what would be a good graphics card to get? the choice im looking at now is a AMD Radion 7750
Sith Lord of Campaigns
Posted 20 March 2013 - 07:20 PM
Ram is nice, but CPU power is better.
I recently upped from 4GB to 8GB and saw a small difference, and eeeny weeny improvement in load times. Funnily enough the RAM made more difference to Internet Explorer than PR.
I suspect you need to match your ram levels to the quality of your motherboard and CPU. I have a mid-range CPU and so the RAM upgrade only made a small difference from 4GB to 8GB.
If you want to spend money, put it into the graphics card. You'll get more return than dumping money into RAM.
ALL HUMANS ARE VERMIN IN THE EYES OF MORBO!
Posted 21 March 2013 - 04:33 PM
yeah i dont quite see the point of 32 gbs of ram. its not like im trying to run crysis on a pair of 32 inch monitor at max settings and at 1900x1080 here, lol
actually, i guess since the gear to run it at that probably won't break the bank, ill just find the req's for the high-to-max settings for crysis and look at using those
Posted 25 March 2013 - 01:24 AM
yeah i dont quite see the point of 32 gbs of ram. its not like im trying to run crysis on a pair of 32 inch monitor at max settings and at 1900x1080 here, lol
actually, i guess since the gear to run it at that probably won't break the bank, ill just find the req's for the high-to-max settings for crysis and look at using those
Anything above 8 gb is at the moment completely pointless for gaming as none of the memory above 8 gb will be used effectively. That said I'd always aim for 8 gb of ram and nothing less, as ram is not so expensive anyway and you feel the increase up to 8 gb (although cpu power and gfx card makes much more of a difference). 16-32 gb can be useful for heavy duty video editing and similar extremely processor and memory intensive work though (one core can use up to 2 gb of ram easily). 32 gb's of ram probably has the most use with a hexacore or octacore processor on a computer built for video editing.
Even if you're not trying to, if you'd ever want to run crysis in high resolutions on huge monitors, it would be the graphics card doing nearly all of the work and 8 gb ram would be more than enough 
What is the budget for your computer?
ALL HUMANS ARE VERMIN IN THE EYES OF MORBO!
Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:08 AM
typically i like to make a build of around 1000 or so.
the laptop im using right now is starting to have some issues (keeps freezing up and crashes, requiring a hard shutdown. btw, if anyone can help me there, that would be immensely awesome. im honestly at a loss as to whats going on. i dont want to have to go drop it off at a shop or whatever for 2 days because ive no backup computer to work with),
it was built with an i7 M620 processor, 4 Gbs of ram, an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 (1gb) vid card. runs a genuine copy of win7 64-bit. built it at cyberpower and with a couple of accessories, cost me about 1150 or so, about 2 and a half years ago. i got it for school, as my hand-writing sucks bantha poodoo, and i use it all the time. ive got to get another year or 2 out of it before i can get a new one, but every few months or so, i go build a new one online.
what ive been thinking about now is getting a full fledged desktop for use at home and a tablet to use at school.
right now, the build im working now,
heres all the parts im looking at getting
if you can't access the page, let me know and ill see what i can do
https://secure.neweg...spx?ID=30153768
Posted 27 March 2013 - 07:30 PM
Most often when laptops crash they are overheating. You could look into the temperatures it is running at
For a $1000 budget I'd prolly go for an i5-3570k or similar cpu. With a larger budget I might consider another cpu, but the i5 performs really well for a good cost. 8 gigs of ram from some good company such as Corsair or Kingston. you can find other good companies as well simply by googling what others recommend. For a mobo the Asus P8Z77 should be decent. The graphics card should be your main money sink as it gives you the most framerates and gaming enhancements, just throw all money that is left in your budget on a better graphics card. The Nvidia Geforce GTX 660 Ti is cheap considering it is a high end graphics card, so it could be good to aim for that as a start and then move up from there.
If I was in your shoes, I'd probably get a desktop for gaming and focus on mostly school/work on the laptop. While there's nothing wrong with laptop gaming, you always have to pay more for a gaming laptop than a gaming pc.
And nope, can't access the page without an account. You can just list the parts tho if you want.
ALL HUMANS ARE VERMIN IN THE EYES OF MORBO!
Posted 28 March 2013 - 03:25 PM
lets see.
mobo: GIGABYTE GA-B75M LGA 1155
Vid-card: GeForce GT 620 1GB
Power supply: CORSAIR CX600 600W
CPU: i5-3570 3.4 GHz.
RAM: CORSAIR XMS 8GB (2 sticks of 4 GBs) DDR3 1600Ghz
HDD: Western Digital 500GB drive. ive got a 2 TB external so this isnt as much of a priority
Cooling: 4 additional case fans in addition to the built in one. Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus heat sink for the CPU.
this plus a monitor, Case, and a few other odds and ends + a fresh install of Win7 pro 64-bit if i need brings it up to $898.64.
im not going to go liquid cooling unless its done at the factory, as i have no experience with liquid cooled setups
lol. im an idiot. i forgot to add a optical drive to the build.
but i guess a Blu-Ray reader with DVD-R capability. thats gonna put it up by $50.
of course, this is all predicated on my getting a new job and other stuff
ive actually been told that the i7 line isnt so great for gaming. something about it being designed more for hard-core video editing or something like that. still. its good to know that my instincts werent that far off from someone who actually knows what theyre doing, lol. my reasoning for those particular parts were because they were closest to what i would have on my cyberpower build. i guess if i didnt need the new disk for win7, and if the tv i have actually can broadcast up to 1920x1080, then that might take up to 2-300 or so. can i move my copy of win7 from my laptop to my potential desktop?
Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:22 AM
Why the weak graphics card? As I said, it's where you should spend the most. You're building a gaming PC right, why would you want something that can't run any newer games properly and nothing on higher graphics settings?
As I mentioned, starting out with the GTX 660 Ti would probably be a smart move. It's relatively cheap for being high end, and it is likely to still run many games decently in 4 years time and anything that is currently new it can run on highest settings. Reason I'm so set on recommending the 660 Ti is that it is such a good price for value for the non-high end gamer that it simply cannot be ignored. Below is a performance chart and value chart of your choice, the 620, in comparison to other cards. As you can see, it doesn't do too well. However, if the ~$280 price of the 660 Ti is too much, you could opt for the normal 660 which is around ~$200.
http://www.videocard...=GeForce GT 620
Yes, you're correct that picking the i5 over i7 is often the correct move. i7 has a larger cache, has better hyper threading and can be overclocked more: So yes, the i7 is a cpu for gaming enthusiasts or heavy duty users, and the average gamer will not benefit for the extra cash spent on one.
I usually don't count stuff like accessories, software or monitors into my computer budget. It might be an idea to get the computer first, and then everything else separately if you're running a tight budget.
Yes, if you have a windows disk I'd imagine you can install the operating system again on your desktop.
As for liquid cooling, it's a bit of a chore changing the water every 6 months but definitely worth it if you want to run a heavily overclocked system. For the average gamer it is definitely not required.
In short though, except for the graphics card everything seems good
Posted 30 March 2013 - 05:01 AM
I'm no expert, but while looking into some upgrades for my desktop a comparison between the CX600 and the GS600 rates the GS to have a higher max load. 588 watts for the GS vs 480 for the CX. Something to consider.
While on this tech talk, how does a radeon HD 6850 rate these days? I've bought one to replace my integrated HD 4200 (came with the comp, don't have the financial means to build a whole system). Perhaps shoulda asked before buying but all the reviews I've read consider it a good card.
Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:51 PM
While on this tech talk, how does a radeon HD 6850 rate these days? I've bought one to replace my integrated HD 4200 (came with the comp, don't have the financial means to build a whole system). Perhaps shoulda asked before buying but all the reviews I've read consider it a good card.
http://www.videocard...n HD 6850&id=45
Average card, decent value. Throwing in another 90 dollars would have given you a 7870 that has twice the score and better value though.
Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:19 AM
Got a 6850 myself. Still able to play most games on high/very high settings, even with a 27' screen. Originally i wanted an NVidia, but i got offered the card for ~50€ from my hardware dealer. A guy's payment was invalid, the comp he bought was returned but since the parts were already used for a while (and since i quite frequently buy parts) i got it cheap as hell. So i went for it and told myself if the card is crap, i can still get whatever card i would've gotten in ~6 month without paying more due to the huge price loss on cards (:
Only thing bad about it is a mouse-cursor bug sometimes happening in games. Corrupts the cursor and nothing works, but a restart :(
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