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#2341 Black Temple Gaurdian

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 09:30 AM

People still don't get it that you can't make another factory.
It will always come out of WF!

Explain Naval Yards then.

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#2342 Black Temple Gaurdian

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 09:34 AM

How about a Refinery using Slave Miner logic to deploy harvesting drones. Only without the whole "undeploy into vehicle" bit?

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#2343 Atomic_Noodles

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:22 AM

Naval Factories were already a thing in Vanilla RA2 and Red Alert 1 though.

 

That Slave Miner Logic is already feasible just need to increase the Scan Radius for the Slave Miner Structure itself to make it so it wouldn't undeploy to move closer to ore.

 

If I recall Attacque Superior had it on one of their Factions. Not sure if this is still the case when it migrated to OpenRA


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:58 AM

SlaveMinerShortScan and SlaveMinerLongScan?


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 02:55 PM

Attacque Superior had it on one of their Factions. Not sure if this is still the case when it migrated to OpenRA


It was a shitty concept to begin with and OpenRA gives me more ways to differ that faction - so I don't know if I'll keep that thing afterall. But I share the results anyway.

If you increase that above 2 tags to ludicrous ranges, you can prevent the deployed Slave Miner to ever undeploy, which is a requirement to give the SM logic to an ordinary refinery - otherwise the refinery will always try to undeploy/sell(!) itself when ore runs out of range - they can be mixed, kinda. I didn't tried having two kinds of slave infantries tbh. Also the slaves cannot enter/exit to the Refinery during a standard miner's dumping.
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Posted 22 October 2015 - 06:34 PM

So what are the names of other two subfactions for side 4 gonna be?

- The last Bastion.

- Haihead.


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Posted 24 October 2015 - 09:40 AM

-Destroyed Aircraft will eject pilot with parachute. he can hijack a vehicle units but he can't disguise as enemy.
-If Deviator won't has chaos tech anymore please make Deviator's gas can decreased firepower, armor and speed to vehicle units.
-Make Cryo Commando can Anti-Aircraft.
-Make allied spy can swim but when he is swimming his costume will gone and he can't disguise as enemy.
-Ghost Miner can't cloak if Epsilon Ore Refinery is destroyed. It for not tick "Short Game"
-Epsilon Elite & Adept have a cast time for mind control if they are verteran they will cast faster and for elite they can mind control instantly like a normal.
-Can play Meteor Shower with Fortress maps.
 
edit : And please make this. the only one way to get that infantry.
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Deviator is no more.

Cryo Commando is no more.

Playing not short game vs epsilon is a suicide.

Stolen tech infantry is no more.

 

 

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Edited by FELITH, 17 November 2015 - 10:18 AM.


#2348 CLAlstar

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Posted 24 October 2015 - 11:15 AM

Deviator is no more.

Cryo Commando is no more.

Playing not short game vs epsilon is a suicide.

Stolen tech infantry is no more.



#2349 Solais

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Posted 24 October 2015 - 12:20 PM

Didn't Speeder say that the Deviator is still in, just without the gas, as a super artillery? He also said that Stolen Tech Infantry will be still in the game, just gained via a new method.



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Posted 24 October 2015 - 05:21 PM

Didn't Speeder say that the Deviator is still in, just without the gas, as a super artillery? He also said that Stolen Tech Infantry will be still in the game, just gained via a new method.

It uses the poisonous warhead that is the ultimate anti infantry unit.



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Posted 24 October 2015 - 06:13 PM

People still don't get it that you can't make another factory.
It will always come out of WF!

Explain Naval Yards then.


The existence of naval yards does bring the possibility of separate build queues. The game engine only looks at Naval Yards when considering such, however. If Ares expands this, great. If not, we mod with what we have.

BuildAt= in Ares has already resolved the part about something coming out of WF. RA1 Kennels (share the same buildqueue, but units come out from barracks) are already possible.


Deviator is no more.
Cryo Commando is no more.
Playing not short game vs epsilon is a suicide.
Stolen tech infantry is no more.


No things are confirmed, until... the game is released. :p
 
Deviator can be removed, repurposed, moved to a different faction or merged with another unit. So can other units.

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#2352 Atomic_Noodles

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Posted 27 October 2015 - 11:43 PM

Pilots were scrapped mostly because one... if your aircraft just got killed chances are they won't be surviving that parachute down a base covered with 10+ AA Defenses/Units waiting to chomp them up. Making Espionage Infantry amphibious would break their disguise system. You have to add in the amphibious sequences for all the infantry it can disguise on or give them one which alot of the infantry do not have actual amphibious graphics. (Unless you're totally fine with Infantry stuck on their Stand Poses gliding over the water) Also it would give the Allied Spy an edge thats far too overpowered compared to the other sides spies.


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Posted 28 October 2015 - 04:19 PM

Atomic is quite right, chances are that pilot will not last long (Particularly in a Epsilon base) when paradropping inside enemy bases. Also damn, the deviator now shoots bio-missiles? Sweet, AoE Virus anyone? MUAHAHAHHAHA.

EDIT: I almost forgot, is it perchance possible to increase menu resolution? If not, darn, if yes. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.


Edited by Com.Davanov, 28 October 2015 - 04:20 PM.


#2354 NHunter

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 04:46 PM

Never modded anything but from my observations, I think it's hardcoded for VGA.

 

More on topic, I think Ivans are too powerful against naval units. Disarming is nearly impossible if you are any reasonable distance away from the shore and AFAIR bomb planting doesn't trigger a message that your forces under attack. So, if you are looking elsewhere, tough luck... Is it possible to at least disable post-explosion fire on water?



#2355 Solais

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 04:53 PM

I kinda wish if the dynamite icon would be visible for the "other player" as well, because I don't think it gives any advantage to have it not show up, just annoyance in trying to find where the bomb is.



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Posted 28 October 2015 - 05:10 PM

Engineers are for a reason. They detect bombs and can disarm them.



#2357 Solais

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 05:54 PM

Really? I never knew that! Now that I read the description on the site, it is really there. Wow. Was it like that in the originals as well? The game never mentioned that.



#2358 CLAlstar

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 06:18 PM

Yes, in vanilla RA2/YR they also were able to do that.



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Posted 29 October 2015 - 11:47 AM

There's still the problem of Engineers not being able to disarm naval units unless they were amphibious or docked right exactly beside the beach.

 

IDK if this would be even be implemented though... I got around it by making Engineers Amphibious. Another idea could be adding a Naval Unit that is able to defuse bombs and another support ability. (I.E: Repair/Buffing/Additional Damage)


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Posted 29 October 2015 - 02:00 PM

I have an idea for a unit based on some old red alert 2 concept art.

it is basically a GI on a motor wich can quickly deploy, shoot and then get out as fast as he came in.

 

there is only one problem it works basically the same as a GI IFV and problaly needs some extra features to make it more unique. 

still would be cool to see in game maybe for the Latin conferdation or scorpion cell because they are both about quick assault

 

let me know what you think.

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