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[ShadowSpion]

I am trying to make an Elrond Hero ingame.  I have been modding his ini file that was with the game.

But, I have run into multiple issues.

1. How do I get the game to allow him to respawn once he dies?

2. How can I change his name, if I do I get the Missing:Object...?

3. How can I implement him into the campaign?

 

Thank You

[Echo]

I am trying to make an Elrond Hero ingame.  I have been modding his ini file that was with the game.

But, I have run into multiple issues.

1. How do I get the game to allow him to respawn once he dies?

2. How can I change his name, if I do I get the Missing:Object...?

3. How can I implement him into the campaign?

 

Thank You

 

Hi

 

1) Edit playertemplate.ini and list him under "BuildableHeroesMP = " as ElvenElrond to the desired faction. Make sure he has a build cost and respawn updates. Respawn updates can be found in the inis of the heroes, so check Aragorn.ini for example and copy paste that to Elrond.ini in the Engineering Parameters section somewhere and edit it to your liking.

 

2) You will need a lotr.str file for that. But Elrond shouldn't display as a "Missing:ObjectElvenElrond" because there's an entry in the lotr.str that says:

 

OBJECT:ElvenElrond
"Elrond"
END

 

Which should change his name to just "Elrond".

 

3. I am not sure about the campaign, but I think you will need to edit every campaign map you want him to be in manually. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But why should Elrond be in the campaign, and where? Dunharrow would be the only place that would make sense, movie wise

[ShadowSpion]

Thank you very much.

Another couple of things.

1. How do I make him auto heal like other heros?

2. Is it possible to make a double horde use less command points.  For example, each elven archer horde costs 20.  So 40 in a double horde.  Can I make the double horde specifically 30 command points instead of 40 and keep the regular elves at 20?

 

Again Thank You

[Echo]

Thank you very much.

Another couple of things.

1. How do I make him auto heal like other heros?

2. Is it possible to make a double horde use less command points.  For example, each elven archer horde costs 20.  So 40 in a double horde.  Can I make the double horde specifically 30 command points instead of 40 and keep the regular elves at 20?

 

Again Thank You

 

I've never actually done these things and I'm surprised Elrond doesn't have autohealing, but try adding this for 1):

    Behavior = AutoHealBehavior ModuleTag_ElrondHealing
        StartsActive = Yes
        HealingAmount = HERO_HEAL_AMOUNT
        HealingDelay = 1000
        StartHealingDelay = HERO_HEAL_DELAY
        HealOnlyIfNotInCombat = Yes
    End

And for 2): it seems like the Elven Combo horde already costs 30 command points only (see "CommandPoints =30"):

 

Spoiler

;////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

ChildObject RohanElvenWarriorDoubleHorde RohanElvenWarriorHorde
    
    Draw = W3DScriptedModelDraw ModuleTag_W3DModelDraw
        DependencySharedModelFlags = EMOTION_ALERT EMOTION_MORALE_HIGH EMOTION_MORALE_LOW EMOTION_AFRAID EMOTION_COWER SELECTED EMOTION_TERROR
        DefaultModelConditionState
            Model = None ;InvisHrdeTmp5x2
        End
        ModelConditionState = HORDE_EMPTY
            Model = None
        End        
        ModelConditionState = WORLD_BUILDER
            Model = HordeTemp_5By2
        End
    End
    
    WeaponSet
        Conditions = None
        Weapon = PRIMARY    NormalMissileHordeRangefinder
    End
    
    CommandSet = RohanElvenWarriorDoubleHordeCommandSet

    DisplayName = OBJECT:HordeRohanElvesCombo

    BuildCost = 1000
    BuildTime = 30.0
    VisionRange = 320
    ShroudClearingRange = SHROUD_CLEAR_STANDARD
    CommandPoints = 30
        
    FormationWidth = 2 ; Width it occupies in formations. Current choices are 1 or 2.
    FormationDepth = 2 ; Depth it occupies in formations. Current choices are 1 or 2.
    
    TransportSlotCount = 1
    KindOf = SELECTABLE CAN_ATTACK ATTACK_NEEDS_LINE_OF_SIGHT INFANTRY HORDE ARMY_SUMMARY COMBO_HORDE ARCHER ;UNATTACKABLE
    
    Body = ImmortalBody ModuleTag_ImmortalBody
        MaxHealth = 1
    End
    
    Behavior = HordeAIUpdate ModuleTag_HordeAIUpdate
        AutoAcquireEnemiesWhenIdle = Yes ATTACK_BUILDINGS
        MoodAttackCheckRate        = 500
        MaxCowerTime                =    5000
        MinCowerTime                =    3000
        CanAttackWhileContained    = Yes  ; Can fire out of garrisoned building        
        AILuaEventsList                = InfantryFunctions  
        AttackPriority                =     AttackPriority_Archer
    End

    Behavior = HordeContain ModuleTag_HordeContain
        ObjectStatusOfContained =
        InitialPayload = RohanElvenWarrior 10
        Slots = 10
        PassengerFilter = NONE +INFANTRY
        ShowPips = No
        ThisFormationIsTheMainFormation = Yes    ;Used to determine which armorset to use (and anything else we want!)
        RandomOffset = X:1 Y:1
        RankSplit = Yes
        SplitHordeNumber = 5
        
        ; Banner Carrier info        
        BannerCarriersAllowed    = RohanBanner                                        ; types of units that are allowed as banner carriers
        BannerCarrierPosition    = UnitType:RohanElvenWarrior    Pos:X:50.0 Y:0.0    ; (DEFAULT) position of banner carrier for elven warrior horde
        
        ; Positions for 10
        RankInfo = RankNumber:1 UnitType:RohanElvenWarrior    Position:X:30 Y:0    Position:X:30 Y:25        Position:X:30 Y:-25        Position:X:30 Y:50        Position:X:30 Y:-50  GrantedWeaponCondition:WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
        RankInfo = RankNumber:2 UnitType:RohanElvenWarrior    Position:X:10 Y:0    Position:X:10 Y:25        Position:X:10 Y:-25        Position:X:10 Y:50        Position:X:10 Y:-50  RevokedWeaponCondition:WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1

        SplitHorde = SplitResult:RohanElvenWarriorHorde    UnitType:RohanElvenWarrior RankNumber:1
        SplitHorde = SplitResult:RohanElvenWarriorHorde    UnitType:RohanElvenWarrior RankNumber:2
        
        RanksToReleaseWhenAttacking = 1 2
        MeleeAttackLeashDistance = 25; How far the hordes can move from the center of the horde when melee attacking.

        AttributeModifiers = MeleeRangedComboHorde ; RohanElvenWarriorHordePorcupineBonus
        UsePorcupineBody = Yes
        UseSlowHordeMovement = Yes
    End

    Behavior = PhysicsBehavior ModuleTag_PhysicsBehavior
        GravityMult = 1.0
    End

    Behavior = SplitHordeSpecialPower ModuleTag_SplitHorde
        SpecialPowerTemplate      = SpecialAbilitySplitHorde
    End
    
    LocomotorSet
        Locomotor     = NormalMeleeHordeLocomotor
        Condition     = SET_NORMAL
        Speed         = NORMAL_GOOD_FAST_HORDE_SPEED        
    End

    Geometry = BOX
    GeometryMajorRadius = 20.0
    GeometryMinorRadius = 20.0
    GeometryHeight = 20.0
    GeometryIsSmall = No

End

;////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Edited by Echo, 27 December 2013 - 06:17 PM.

[ShadowSpion]

It seems that way but when I test it they still cost 40.  i will check again though.

[ShadowSpion]

I just checked and it still costs what they were individually.  Also the respawn still isn't working I copied aragorns part and all that single behavior does is when Elrond "dies" he continues to do what I told him to last.  He will continue to kill a troll if I tell him to right before he dies.  I can't select him or anything.

The autoheal works great thanks!

Edited by ShadowSpion, 27 December 2013 - 07:26 PM.

[Meneldil]

I assume you haven't added leveling capability or voices to Elrond (i.e., he's still level 10 and mute). In order to add basic respawn capability, copy and paste the following into the indicated ini files:

 

data\ini\fxlist.ini

;-------------------------------------------

FXList FX_ElrondDieToRespawn

  ParticleSystem

    Name = GandalfSwordHitSpark

    Offset = X:12.0 Y:0.0 Z:8.0

    OrientToObject = Yes

  End

  ParticleSystem

    Name = GandalfSwordHitFlash

    Offset = X:12.0 Y:0.0 Z:8.0

    OrientToObject = Yes

  End

End

 

;-------------------------------------------

FXList FX_ElrondSpawn

  Sound

            Name = GenericRespawn1

  End

  ParticleSystem

    Name = ResurrectionCenter

    Offset = X:0.0 Y:0.0 Z:5.0

    OrientToObject = Yes

  End

  ParticleSystem

    Name = ResurrectionLightShaft

    Offset = X:0.0 Y:0.0 Z:0.0

    OrientToObject = Yes

  End

  ParticleSystem

    Name = ResurrectionVortex

    Offset = X:0.0 Y:0.0 Z:5.0

    OrientToObject = Yes

  End

  ParticleSystem

    Name = ResurrectionWave

    Offset = X:0.0 Y:0.0 Z:5.0

    OrientToObject = Yes

  End

End

 

data\ini\object\goodfaction\units\elven\elrond.ini (place under Engineering Parameters)

; Meneldil added respawn code

      Body = RespawnBody ModuleTag_RespawnBody

            CheerRadius                   = EMOTION_CHEER_RADIUS

            MaxHealth                     = ELROND_HEALTH

            PermanentlyKilledByFilter     = NONE

            DodgePercent                  = HERO_DODGE_PERCENT

      End

      Behavior = RespawnUpdate ModuleTag_RespawnUpdate

            DeathAnim                     = DYING ;STUNNED        ;Model condition to play when killed-to-respawn

            DeathFX                       = FX_ElrondDieToRespawn ;FXList to play when killed-to-respawn

            DeathAnimationTime            = 5367 ;1133            ;How long DeathAnim will take.

            InitialSpawnFX                = FX_ElrondSpawn        ;Animation/sound when first recruited

            RespawnAnim                   = LEVELED               ;Animation to play when respawning.

            RespawnFX                     = FX_ElrondSpawn        ;FXList to play when respawning.

            RespawnAnimationTime          = 2000                  ;Time it takes for respawn to play.

            AutoRespawnAtObjectFilter     = NONE +CASTLE_KEEP     ;Respawn at this location -- and at it's exit production point if possible.

            RespawnRules                  = AutoSpawn:No Cost:1000 Time:10000 Health:100%

      End

[ShadowSpion]

I haven't added levels yet, but I gave him elven archer voice

 

I deleted the previous stuff with aragorn.  Then I copied the two bits of code.  Elrond still won't die, just keeps on glitching out.

Edited by ShadowSpion, 27 December 2013 - 08:02 PM.

[Meneldil]

Echo answered your main questions, but I'll add to his comment regarding adding Elrond to the campaign. Ideally, you would use WorldBuilder to add Elrond to the map you want him to appear in. That map would need to be added to your mod. However, if you don't mind some story discontinuity, you can add Elrond to the campaign just by editing the gondorcampaign.ini file. To do this for Gondor, for example, modify the following code as shown:

 

LivingWorldPlayerArmy

            Name = FaramirPlayerArmy; Northern Ithilien

            DisplayNameTag = LWA:Gondor

            Color = R:255 G:0 B:0

            NightColor = R:0 G:255 B:0

            ArmyEntry

                        ThingTemplate = GondorFaramir

                        Quantity = 1

            End

            ArmyEntry

                        ThingTemplate = ElvenElrond

                        Quantity = 1

            End

End

 

This will allow Elrond to join Faramir in Northern Ithilien. Because the map isn't modified, he won't appear next to Faramir. Instead, he'll apper southwest of Faramir.

[ShadowSpion]

Thank you, but I am still having respawn issues, with your code only in the correct places elrond still won't die.  Thanks for all the help so far.  I must be truly not able to get anything to work.

[Meneldil]

I'm scratching my head on this one. I just verified what I wrote works by adding it to a vanilla version. Elrond should be able to die. Try decreasing his health points significantly and see what happens. I've attached the fxlist and elrond ini files that show the modifications I made (just search for my name). Reapply to your mod and post what happens.

 

 fxlist.ini   193.85KB   68 downloads  elrond.ini   26.16KB   79 downloads

 

[Meneldil]

Also, regarding your question: Is it possible to make a double horde use less command points.  For example, each elven archer horde costs 20.  So 40 in a double horde.  Can I make the double horde specifically 30 command points instead of 40 and keep the regular elves at 20?

 

The short answer is no. This is because unit command points count, too. If you are willing to add the elven warrior double horde as a buildable unit to the archery range, then you could do this.

[ShadowSpion]

Thank You so much this has been stumping me for days!  With the way this goes is there a limit on how much health he could have?  

[Meneldil]

There's probably a limit, but I don't know what it would be from a coding perspective. From a player perspective, you don't want to make it so high that he's essentially invulnerable or so low that he's easily killed. Obvious, I know. Experiment and find what works best for you.

[ShadowSpion]

Never mind the health works now, I just can't copy and paste.        Again Thank you! 

Edited by ShadowSpion, 27 December 2013 - 08:55 PM.

[ShadowSpion]

I am now working on the experience levels and powers for Elrond.

I am not sure where to begin with it though.  Thanks for any help

[Echo]

Take a look at Aragorns experiencelevel for example, it's always good to orientate yourself on existing codes. I just copied Aragorn's entire experiencelevel (level 1-10) to a text document, then I replaced all instances of "GondorAragorn" with "ElvenElrond". Then I replaced all instances of "AragornLevel" with "ElrondLevel". Then copy & paste all that to your codes. Make sure to remove/comment out the existing experiencelevel of Elrond (there is one) that grants him level 10 by default. If you need more help let me know

[Meneldil]

I'm glad Echo and I were able to help. Here's a link to a tutorial I made: http://www.the3rdage...tem-744?addview

 

Among other things, it provides information on how to enable Elrond to level up as well as add abilities to his command set.

 

Good luck!

[ShadowSpion]

I can see how that guide will be useful thanks, will the ai use elrond now that he is implemented?

[Meneldil]

No, the AI won't use Elrond until you adjust it. My tutorial covers that, too.