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[a.fake.name]

Just wondering, but has anyone thought of porting PR to another engine ?

Port the models, specs, etc, and I imagine it'd provide an awesome experience.

 

[evilbobthebob]

Unfortunately there's no other engine that supports the same kind of real-time galactic strategic mode with real-time tactical battles in both land and space. Total War is close but would mean cutting space and I'm pretty sure it'd be very difficult to make a galaxy map. Sins of a Solar Empire doesn't have permanent maps so we can't have a canonical galaxy. None of us have the experience or time to code the entire game in something like Unity.

 

There just isn't really a game that supports this stuff like EaW does.

[a.fake.name]

There are games that would support various elements, but agreed, nothing (EAW included) goes all the way.

[Moggwhy]

What about sword of the stars 2 ?

[a.fake.name]

Sins of a Solar Empire doesn't have permanent maps so we can't have a canonical galaxy. None of us have the experience or time to code the entire game in something like Unity.

 

There just isn't really a game that supports this stuff like EaW does.

 

Obviously the way planets are handled would have to adapt to the particular game (or make use of map editors, such as in sins).
I was mostly asking, because I'm sure a at least a few of the people here (users and staff alike) know enough about some other game (or know people that know) that with minimal assistance from the PR team (primarialy in providing data) such a project could likely be accomplished and down to balance work relatively quickly.

[Kitkun]

Sins can have static maps via the external map editor. What it doesn't do well is the weapons, especially with it's four arc setup. Plus starfighters can't be represented well at all in that engine.

 

As for SotS2... that game doesn't even work right as it is, still. I'd be afraid to even try modding it.

 

EaW is pretty unique in it's scope, really. Even then, it barely works for PR, and it's designed specifically as a Star Wars game.

Edited by Kitkun, 14 May 2014 - 05:37 PM.

[a.fake.name]

Armada 2 would accept a port nicely enough. The main work for that game would be in hardpointing every ship, and giving weapons the correct arcs.

[SpardaSon21]

As someone experienced with Sins, Phoenix Rising's tech system just wouldn't work without a lot of workarounds, and even then it would fall pretty short of what's been done here, especially with regards to hero units.  However, there's a mod in the works called Interregnum that appears to be doing an excellent job of making a deeper Star Wars experience for Sins.

[a.fake.name]

How wouldn't it work tho ?
Seems to me that most of it'd be easily adapted.

Sure, heroes may present a slight issue, but that's where adapting it to the engine comes into play.

Prehaps have the capitol yard in sins build hero units, with the rest built at the regular yard, for example.

As for general tech tree stuff, well a tech tree is a tech tree, and sins already has those modable.

[SpardaSon21]

I mean Sins does broad global upgrades, not ship-specific ones like in PR.  You can upgrade all turbolasers at once, but you can't have one specific ship get better without some workarounds.  Its actually extremely easy to do; it just takes a bit of thinking and a lot of file creation.  What you have to do is have ships unlock some weapons and get mesh changes after a certain research is done, which is fairly easy, and then for more general upgrades have a passive ability on that specific ship that is unlocked and upgraded via research, also easy unless you're talking about capital ships.  So its doable, it just takes a lot of work.

[a.fake.name]

Yeah, it's about what I thought.

It'd actually be easy to adapt, just change it to researching the wepons PR standardizes, and add a few hull type researches for the bigger ships.

[Gumballthechewy]

What needs to happen is Petroglyph needs to hire the PR team and let them develop Empire at War II: Phoenix Rising.

[a.fake.name]

Have these guys re-form LucasArts.

Honestly, they've done better than quite a few of LAs later games.

But yeah, that's pretty much why I want to port it, see how PR looks in other engines.

[megabalta]

Sounds great, the Steiner Modding Group did great with their mod.

[a.fake.name]

Back before PR, AotR was one of my favorite mods.
This is great news.

[Kad_Venku]

A small update to Vol'Talkes

 

Apparently they are not going to include ground combat in the initial release.

It may be added some time in the future, but this "may" is far bigger than expected.

 

If the ground combat would have been included, this game may have been

the ultimate source for EaW/Vol'Talkes mods.

I really would have loved the idea of PR on a stable, less lag-heavy engine.

[evilbobthebob]

Lack of ground combat is pretty much a dealbreaker. If we weren't interested in it, we could have moved to any number of space 4X games before now.

[a.fake.name]

Ground combat is shitty enough thanks to the engine that lack of it in another engine isn't a deal breaker to me.

[DoctorWho]

Is the EaW engine capable of using multicore processing? I looked several time in the task manager and  never saw it use more that 25% processor...