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[Meyerm]

It makes the Tyrant more comparable to the Apocalypse and Future Tank.

[Atomic_Noodles]

You can disguise as your own units? I thought I tried that and it didn't work.

 

Of course you could. You could even do it in Vanilla (Of course in vanilla there was no limit so you could have Spies disguised even as Animals)

[MIG]

Robot Tank. XD

[Allied Commander ???]

Is Perun Amphibious ??? Why it is build limited ???

[mevitar]

You can't disguise as Brutes...

[doctormedic]

Still no chrono commander.sigh

[Sizyfos31]

 

You can disguise as your own units? I thought I tried that and it didn't work.

 

Of course you could. You could even do it in Vanilla (Of course in vanilla there was no limit so you could have Spies disguised even as Animals)

 

I remember disguising spies as rocketeers, or chrono legionnaires. And the sight of their funny walking. Legionnaire walked like he wanted to spike someone with a fork   

[mevitar]

Speed: Dune riders > Siege cadres = Pyros

Doesn't matter for infantry. Did you know that Duneriders and Libra are supposed to be faster than Marauder (speed 8), yet Marauders are faster?
Speed above 7 has hardly any difference ingame for infantry (only at very long distances). So, 95% of the time, Siege Cadre = Pyro = Dunerider.
 

Range: Siege cadres >=(only 0.5) Dune riders > Pyros

Unless the unit can attack on move (which no infantry can), 0.5 range difference hardly matters in 9/10 cases. You'd have to place the unit in a very specific position in order for it to benefit from that.
 

Structure damage: Pyros > Dune riders > Siege cadres

This is how well they really do compared to Pyro and Dunerider (yes! this is the current public version).


If you wondered how they do against ConYards, this is how.


Duneriders are actually the worst anti-structure (slightly worse than Siege Cadres against ConYards)! Maybe when Tyhednus said that they sort of suck, he was right?

Infantry killing: Dune riders >(Due to its range) Pyros >>> Siege cadres

Really? Pyro > all. 3 Pyros kill 3 Duneriders (2 Pyros survive, and this is in BR2, where Duneriders are supposed to be more effective!). This is also when they all stand clustered.
 

Survivability: Dune riders > Pyros > Siege cadres

Only if you count their amphibious capabilities. Otherwise, Pyro > all (because of hp, which, with their damage, makes them unkillable by T1 and T2 infantry, except Rocketeers).

Edited by mevitar, 28 May 2014 - 10:07 AM.

[Atomic_Noodles]

You can't disguise as Brutes...

 

Why? MO made them size 1. Might as well make them disguisable or is this to do with the dogs not attacking them if they're disguised?

[Speeder]

How do you disguise as lotsofmuscles?

[lovalmidas]

Puffy pillows.

 

For sanity's sake, disguising as non-humans should generally be not allowed. Disguising as extremely specialized people (i.e. heroes, Yuri Adepts/Elites) are also no-no.

 

Actually... I seriously think spies can get a ton more value if extremely specialized people can be disguised. They can, for example, generate decoy heroes at the cost of ~$1000 that fools the enemy while the real deal sneaks behind. They will greatly increase the survivability and usefulness of heroes and reduce trolling aerial snipes (poor Morales). Just saying 

[Meyerm]

Yeah, it's always funny when I build a single Virus or hoplite or whatever and the enemy AI randomly decides to use that as their disguise.

[Allied Commander ???]

There are no naval vessels with tesla weapons, why overcharge is mounted on the Perun ???

[Petya]

How do you disguise as lotsofmuscles?

Quick and potent steroids.

 

Is Perun Amphibious ??? Why it is build limited ???

First of all a flying unit can't be amphibious, because it is aerial. And it's build limited, because the overcharge effects make tesla weaponry even better.

[Black/Brunez]

Still no chrono commander.sigh

 

Why in the hell a commander would need a portatible chronosphere if he/she usually is on a confortable room looking at a big screen and giving orders?

 

Unless you mean Chrono COMMANDO ( ). Well, I don see room for a unit which is basically a Chrono Ivan with a gun, and you already get the Cryo Commando when infiltrating an enemy Tech Center.

Edited by Black/Brunez, 28 May 2014 - 03:11 PM.

[Divine]

How do you disguise as lotsofmuscles?

[Atomic_Noodles]

With a Muscle Suit.

 

At least with a Brute its less far fetched than a Spy disguised as a Dog.

[fff]

With a Muscle Suit.

 

At least with a Brute its less far fetched than a Spy disguised as a Dog.

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[mevitar]

At least with a Brute its less far fetched than a Spy disguised as a Dog.

It's like Spies disguising themselves as women.
Oh, wait...

is it me or are we getting off the topic here?

Edited by mevitar, 28 May 2014 - 05:43 PM.

[doctormedic]

well we are talking about spies