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#21 duke_Qa

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Posted 02 December 2014 - 05:45 PM

Hehe, as usual, conspiracies are self-perpetuating. The more you tell them their theory is bonkers, the more they believe it. Bit like mercury in vaccines and overall vaccine skepticism these days.

 

Anyway, I came back here to write about what I consider part 4 of this conflict: Oil price slump.

OPEC decided against reducing oil production last week, and oil prices are around 70 dollars per barrel. Who here would have thought that possible, and when? this summer? This spring as Ukraine exploded? Back when news of fracking in the US made America a net producer of oil and gas?

 

Russia have lost around 40 billion dollars because of sanctions, 120 billions because of the slump in oil prices. That does seem like a pretty nice stab to the gut to me.

 

As a Norwegian I can tell that the price is troublesome. About 4-5000 petrol engineers(around 1‰ of our population, so I guess about 300 000 American engineers in proportion,) have been fired from the big companies and suddenly students of said fields are sweating and looking for alternative branches to study. Still, its nothing compared to how dependent Russia is on its oil revenues.

 

Of course, this is just as much a conspiracy as the others, but I do find it more likely to have been what OPEC had in mind when they were discussing it. Saudia Arabia is no ally of Russia and is very dependent upon America. Also, they can argue that they are doing this to choke the wave of fracking in the US from becoming too profitable, maybe carving out a bit of that business by hunting some of the weaker fracking companies not prepared for the slump and buying them out. Somewhat the same goes for every oil nation: producing more at lower prices usually is better than selling at higher prices but overall lower quantities.


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 01:37 AM

Understand what the Bolsheviks were. They were a Zionist based controlling elite responsible for the death of 10s of millions in the various purges. The era of the USSR which came along after the Bolshevik revolution, was a control mechanism, that plundered everything it could, starved more millions than it killed outright, and only lately has Russia been able to kick these fucking Zio bastards out, restore the Orthodox church of their own choosing, take control of their own economy and especially their own central bank. In short, they are finally in a position of controlling their own country's destiny, so to speak.

 

Every move Putin has made regarding Ukraine, East Ukraine, Crimea, and the Donbass region, has been letter perfect white glove diplomacy. Half the people in Ukraine are Russian, they don't just speak the language, they really are part of the Russia "thing", I.E., they are ethnically similar, the have common history. They are damn near Russian, and in Crimea they chose, they had a referendum, they said, "Russia! Here we are! Get us out of this shit!" What I mean about, "get us out of this shit", is, that the Kiev revolution was illegal, backed by the west. That is when Karren Nuland said "Fuck the EU!" in that phone conversation that was intercepted and leaked. She was then and still is to this day the Vice Secretary of State under John Karry (google it). NATO aligned western countries illegally overthrew the elected government about a year ago, killing thousands, and supporting conflict that goes on right up until this day, including the shooting down of the airliner (google it). Russia has accommodated requests for assistance and has not "invaded or annexed" anything. It is all a bunch of fucking lies to make Russia look bad. Simple as that. Putin is a real man, as in, he wants the best for his own fucking race/country. He doesn't invade all his fucking neighbors, like the FUCKING WEST does.

Why fuck with the Russians? Because things have been getting out of control on the financial side of the world in the west in that we are due, OVER due in fact, for a nasty little war, actually, the bigger the better, to reset the financial shenanigans. The economy is rigged; Wall Street, government finances, military industrial expenditure, everything you can fucking think of is... RIGGED. Market upswings, market crashes, commodityfluctuations; its all rigged.

 

There is one difference now, though. The internet has changed everything. I wasn't kidding when I said we are FUCKING OVERDUE! Normally by now, we would have had a war maybe 4 years ago... can't you see that they aretrying and trying and trying to start one? Understand that big ole' wars RESET EVERYTHING (think of all the world war two bullshit fucking movies you see about GI fucking this and something or other fucking that). PearlHarbor had the same effect as 9/11, i.e. galvanizing public opinion against a "PERCEIVED" (common) enemy. Once the war is rolling, production increases and debts are forgiven and war bonds are sold and the financing"wizards" wave their "wands", and like magic, the economy somehow muddles through to the next ramp up of Wall Street when its time to rebuild all the damage (HOW CONVENIENT). Information is the key now; people aren't sostupid, so blinded, so ignorant. They are getting jaded. They just get so tired of listening to the Zio lies, it doesn't have any affect any more. Propaganda is starting to fall on deaf ears. How many times has Israeljumped up and down at the UN and everywhere else they fucking can, and say, "Oh lookie! Look at Iran! THEY ARE SIX MONTHS AWAY FROM BUILDING A NUCLEAR BOMB. We need to attack them first! Now now NOW!" Well they've beensaying this for about 15 fucking years (google it).

LIARS.

Russia? Well, Israel is not gonna want Israel stomped, and Israel controls the States. But Russia? Well, they kicked out the fucking Zionists, and therefore, are the enemy. But that is not the only reason. Just havingtheir own central bank under their own control drives the western banking elite absolutely fucking BONKERS. Anyways, Russia is therefore RIPE as a target. The "terrorists" have been the biggest target lately, and nowversions of that, like "ISIS", pop up like mushrooms, and are yet more convenient targets. But Russia, well, hey. You can hardly ask for a better adversary if you wanted to start a hot, economy resetting, possibly worldtype war, because THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT (they actually really, really, need it, and that is why you see them getting more and more stupid desperate, saying the fucking craziest things lately. They've repeatedly said thatRussia is sending armored columns and heavy weapons into Eastern Ukraine, they've been saying it for many, many months this year, AND THEY NEVER COME UP WITH PROOF! They wont even allow Malaysian Airlines or the countryof Malaysia itself to join in the investigation of the crash of their OWN FUCKING PLANE!      

LIARS. They've been lying to you. You've been lied to. The evidence is there, its just not obvious, and they are scrambling and panicking to keep it as "un-obvious" as possible, but they are making mistakes.

 


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 01:49 AM

Yeah yeah. 

 

You're a textbook example of a self-perpetuating conspiracy nut, and it's starting to get annoying. Keep it to yourself or take it to a tinfoil hat forum somewhere.


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 02:46 AM

I find his paranoia fun.  I'm a big fan.


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 06:54 AM

Hahaha, that was a good one. For a moment there I really thought you actually believed what you wrote. You really have a talent for satire! I have to hand it to you, you covered pretty much all the bases. Jewish bankers rigging the financial system, subversion by NATO, kind Russian neighbours, 9/11 and Pearl Harbor...


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Posted 04 December 2014 - 12:35 PM

He mentioned the Russian Orthodox Church too. =p

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Also - Russia has no right to Lebensraum as the term is.


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 08:53 AM

Haha, nice picture. "Sugarcandy Mountain" :D


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Posted 05 December 2014 - 01:39 PM

I liked the allegory with the raven and the way governments use religion.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 04:33 PM

I realize I probably should have read animal farm properly instead of synopsizes, but I feel it will be so obvious that I will just see the meta.

 

Anyway, as this bbc article asks, are we heading back into the 80s cold war politics of "You did!" "nuh-uh, did not!"? I have to agree with the logic that there probably should have been some more Marshal-aid like support going into Russia after the -91 collapse, to avoid that familiar 1930s-1940s revenge-of-the-fallen Germany went through. At least we're not quite there yet, and trade is much more developed today for it to be a likely scenario, but I'm pretty sure more work could have been done back in the 90s to alleviate this.

 

Or maybe it would have been feeding the mouth that bites. What would have happened in Germany in the 30s if they got a better deal after WW1? Communism and fascism was still a thing. Maybe this is our time's grey-scale battle between liberty and authoritarianism?


Edited by duke_Qa, 07 December 2014 - 04:34 PM.

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