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#21 Bart

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 10:39 AM

But it looked cool! (which was so often the deciding factor in this movie...)


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Posted 19 December 2014 - 05:27 PM

Mathijs, how did you feel about the elven strategy when the orcs showed up? You know, the one where they decided to use their swords, AND render the semi-phalanx of the dwarves useless at the same time?

I quite like that they decided to help, but it was a silly way to attack.

It looked cool but it was a dumb move. They spent some time showing off how quickly these Elves could draw bows and notch arrows, so why did they not rain down a few volleys to thin the herd before going in close? It could have been an equally cool shot, with the Orcs about to clash into the Dwarven phalanx (awesome concept, that) and the first wave getting annihilated by Elven arrows.

 

Also +10 for your post Bart. :p


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Posted 19 December 2014 - 08:11 PM

The one big thing i noticed was that Bard had his arrows on his back yet when he was going over the roof tops some how they just disappeared and re-appeared, lazy editing if you ask me. The Legolas stunts are fun and all but for once i agree that they were overdone just a tad. 

 

Now as for the The Hobbit movies as a whole? I enjoyed them. Enough said. Haha



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Posted 19 December 2014 - 09:03 PM

As far as lazy editing goes, let's not forget that Frodo's gash magically moved from the right side of his face to the left side a couple times during his ascent of Mount Doom. ;)


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Posted 19 December 2014 - 10:06 PM

That's not lazy editing, there's a "continuity coordinator" or something like that, and I'd say it's their fault :p

But yeah, there's a similar thing with Thranduil's orc blood on his face at Ravenhill, but I really wouldn't notice it :p

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 08:19 PM

So I was sitting in Seoul on a Friday evening wondering what I should do. And sure enough, a commercial came on the TV advertising BotFA. So I said screw it, let's go. I saw the film in "4DX" which is 3d plus moving seats, additional pokes and prods, "wind" in your face and even basic smells (the return to the Shire had a very distinct nature smell that brought a massive grin to my face). Overall, I enjoyed the movie BUT everything stated by you Mathijs is very true. I dislike the Hobbit trilogy because it completely separates itself from LotR. It's supposed to in many ways, but being another prevalent story in the middle-earth universe it should really hold justice to what which was laid before it. As it stands one does not need to see the LotR trilogy before or after to enjoy these movies because they are completely standalone. The distinct references to LotR while they may be noticeable to us, are not at all important to those people who have no love for the world.

This makes the Hobbit trilogy bland and tasteless because it is simply appealing to the public masses for money's sake, and not for the sake of the middle-earth saga.

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 07:29 PM

Well the battle looked cool, especially when we saw both Elf and Dwarf armies. 


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Posted 28 December 2014 - 09:04 PM

Yeah that about sums it up.


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 09:00 AM

I saw the film in "4DX" which is 3d plus moving seats, additional pokes and prods, "wind" in your face and even basic smells (the return to the Shire had a very distinct nature smell that brought a massive grin to my face).

 

Woooaaahhh...  :blink:


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 09:56 AM

Haha, it's a common thing here in Korea. It cost (the equivalent of) $17

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 01:12 AM

Haha, it's a common thing here in Korea. It cost (the equivalent of) $17

I guarantee it would cost at least $40+ to see it here in the U.S. 



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 02:11 AM

Loved the Smaug & Bard scene. The Special FX with Sauron looked absolutely terrible, like something from Nintendo 64. Nevertheless was a decent film, doesnt keep up with the LOTR Trilogy though


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 12:12 PM

I think there may have been a late edit there, hopefully it'll be replaced for the EE.

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Posted 05 January 2015 - 10:24 AM

Yes, considering my main gripe was that some things seemed rushed, an EE may provide some solace.
 
  • Beorn (extended)
  • Saruman vs. Sauron (extended)
  • The Battle of Five Armies (extended)
    • Charge of the Dwarven Rams (Added)
    • Dwarven Chariot vs. Wargs (Added)
    • Elves will not fire their arrows against Dwarves but against a wave of Wargs and Warg riders
  • Thorin's funeral and Dain's coronation
  • Galadriel will use more of her power, though the power of her ring will be mainly used to protect and heal
  • We may see more of the Three Rings of the Elves
  • Radagast will show his ability as a member of the Istari
 
Source: http://lotr.wikia.co...xtended_Edition (don't know their source, or its credibility).
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Posted 05 January 2015 - 11:41 AM

Looking at the history of the page it doesn't come out as credible.


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Posted 05 January 2015 - 12:41 PM

I would have loved to see the meeting of Balin and the start of the quest for Moria. Ohh well...



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Posted 05 January 2015 - 01:58 PM

I wonder if they will add the Dwarven ballistas which are shown in the trailer.

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Posted 05 January 2015 - 07:01 PM

I would have loved to see the meeting of Balin and the start of the quest for Moria. Ohh well...

:wub: You should read my book then:  The Lord of Moria. It's a story which first describes the journey (a bit extended with a little amount of own input, hehe :evgr: ) in 12 chapters and the second part starts five years later, when Balin is shot. I'm on about 30.000 words now and I plan to add at least 15.000 to finish it. (Sorry I'm a bit enthausiastic)



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Posted 06 January 2015 - 02:56 PM

Hey now... this isn't a valid rip-off of Rage Hammer that I can complain about at all.  Where are the flatulence jokes and midget puns?  I spent my internet'less month plotting 'orrible things to say about this.

 

I mostly agree with your novel.  As only a pleb with brain disease would defend this movie.  Yet, I don't think they should have edited the Dol Guldur scene in any way... I think they should have ripped that dirty fetus right out of the womb before it was even conceived.  Regardless of that metaphor not really making much sense, having Elrond, Gladriel, Sauman and Gandy gather around a table and talk (in character!) for a few minutes was just a bit of pointless fan servicing that needed to be sacked.  And the battle scene at Dol Guldur (both of them) made my soul hurt since it was so stupid.  I'm not even going to mention how out-of-character it was that the most unpronounceable evil of evils left Gandalf in a cage for a week or two, rather than just killing him willy nilly.  Yea, sure... I can see why Sauman left him on top of his giant penis tower in the Return of Shadow films... they were old friends, and there was reasoning there.  Yet, the entire Dol Guldur thing was just pointless and stupid, and the final conflict between the retarded CGI ghosts and the A-Team of Middle-Earth was fan service that went way too far.  It was all really, really, really, badly written and only existed to make the most hardcore of LotR nerds dry-heave as a result.  The whole Curse of the Hero in Need theme in these films, especially The Five Armies, was beyond 'needs a bit more editing.'  By that, I mean the scenes that had our hero(es)  almost get off'ed, then suddenly, our other hero(es) arrive and save the day right at the last minute.  That needed to stop immediately, and it made me ill how many times they did it.



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Posted 06 January 2015 - 08:42 PM

I guess I'm a pleb with brain disease then :p


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