hallmackers

oh come on!!

that sounds a lot like an army from angmar being commanded by the witch-king to me. i dont think it really helps your argument out a whole lot if it is

Well it isnt The witch kniog I have checked.

I have been checking LOTR Lore, and I think I may have found a loop whole in the lore that will allow Black numenoreans to be in the game. In Tolkiens works he mention that there are numerous tribes of evil and wild men in the North and the east. There are at least three instances, i think, where Tolkien mention a host, or some large group of evil men under the command of a black numenorean during the time their were few black numenoreans in the world. In atleast one of them, Tolkien mentuion such a force fighting alongside traitors of Carboleb and tribes men of Rhudar. Now the fact that he lists these groups as seperate from the black numenorean's host seems to hint at the fact that Tolkien inteded for their their to be a diffrence between the forces. Perhaps what he was alluring to is that these men fighting under the command a black numenorean, although they themselves not being Black numenorean's, simply followed Black numenorean culture and were led only by those of Black numenorean's blood. The other two instances, atleast i think it was two are just briefly mentioned in the South and The east. Now Tolkein did write that theirw erer other tribes and groups of evil men in the north and east who he did not directly name in the book. As I have said earlier perhaps, there were some such tribes who were ruled by a black numenorean Leader, and simply named themselves after the Cul;lture they followed, this would however eman that Their leader's family's would be feircly protected because opf their blood line, Annd it was only the Sorcers who rarely had children. So as you can see it is indeed possible, however i am willing to admit just by a bit, for their to be unit's called blacknumenoreans in the game and in large number without it violateing theLore. There ebvery one happy now?

Is there a reason you quoted yourself? Two minutes after posting? Seriously man...

And if you want to debate, I have a topic for that in the Green Dragon. I'd link you too it, but I feel doing the search yourself would be good for you

sorry, i did not mean to quoute my self, i ws trying to actually edit my firstpost but accidentally ended up posting it twice.

ok look, i realise this is an isue for some poepl but let us atleast try to come to some sort of compromise, now JRR tolkien never said that the black numenoreans died out, in fact i seem to recall him mentioning that they actuall at one time had great pwere in Harad and other lands to the east. And there was at atleast one black numenorean lord in angmar who was mentgioned breifly in the books. Just as the remnants of arnor eventually regained strength and numbers and then once again reforged a kingdom with the help of Gondor, Can we not also asume the descendents of the black numenoren lord also grew in numbers as they did else where in middle earth ? So perhaps the black numenoreans can play some role for the evil factions in the game, perhaps as some sort of minifacton that they all evil forces with the exception of isengard, that way they still play a role in the game but not a central role. There now is every one satisfied.