Stayin´Alive

http://wikiislam.net...slim_Statistics

There are lot of amazing statistics. Most of them are not surprising at all for me.

You guys may realize what has been wrong; but they havent realized yet. Or simply they dont want to face it. "How will you approach and tell them these issues" will determine your role in the future. This is my point.

GL & HF.

I didnt say they cant be muslims. even if i typed, I meant hey cant be islam; but ofc they muslim and alive representators, wrong or correct. I am trying to figure out the difference between islam and muslims.

Islamic knowledge(as well as other religions) came by prophed not by his 1000 years later "follower"s. So you cant simply read it and whenever there are mentioned "the muslim" and "mumin",  "deserves heaven", one shouldnt simply be feeling awarded. No its not that ! mass muslim populations 1st deception. Another one is its ALSO a historical book. you cant simply read and understand what there written....

and its not childish.

I tell you by that (or i had in my mind while teling them were): societies have cycles like 300 500 years. they reborn in every cycle. Or get deeply into mess. which means, the father is not the son the son is not the father.

Sins dont pass thru generations but mistakes do; and the rate of effort that is put on, by thoughts, to solve misatkes and alternate potential habits, by all the society decides how the mistakes will affect the fate of the society....


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I d suggest if any one of you had a little historical knowledge about christianity which have to be said next to many things you say about any folks on this earth. especially if "they" are so much in amount.

There are many more things.

On the other hand if you ever knew once up on time, people, under the very same name ,"islamic umbrella", were appreciated by all means by all of the world. And you could not count any of them you saying. Well at the same thime dont ask what european descendancy were doing.

Dont you think so there must a problem about today's muslims? Those you call muslims are not really islamic doctrinal represantators. All arre cults and traditions rather than being islamic. There are two levels for islamic initiation. first one becomes muslim. then if he is proven by some skill and degree on "islamic philosophy" called mu'min.

On the other hand most of you saying are quite bombastic. They are not quite true. Yes ther eare problems but the way all western orientalism is to not to solve but instigate. western people dont realize what they are doing. but its instigating. you shouldnt do it like that.

They are different folks. They dont represent islam or quran even if they think they are doing. they more like representing heritage of arabic ignorance.

Whatever you call them, they are nothing to do with islam. And if you are wise enoguh you would not call them muslims. even if they are, that make some philosophical errors and consistencial problems.

Its not islam noob. Its people when you see in the news, rumours. On the other hand:

Read whole bibble you wont find anything well. In fact there are more things in old 'taste'ment.

In fact if you read wordwar journals you will % 100 find similar words of "killing", "lets kill","do this", "do that". Well even if you dont see, i assure you there are more. Including allies. There is no exception.

Those are not daily life instructors. They are mostly historical books. That gives information from the psycotic history. They are based on real fights mostly between awoken, determined "good" sides versus reckess rich and "bad" sides. But when these are not understood, there will be "the extreme" & "the bad" behaviors by any worshipper. Both in fact are same shit.
 

Any historical Texts or Religious texts are not to blame. People are to blame. People who are easily "obsessable" to blame. Thoughtles people are to blame. Phorahs in this century are behind the biggest corporations who like this scene very much. You help more them with keeping talking this way. I dont see any problem with quranic text for my self. But it doesnt mean I have problems with %90 of the muslims.