Celebs!

omg i cant believe that $600 billion one. thats so Bush. fucking typical.

As for disarmament, that only works if everyone disarms.  When any one person has power he will use it to force others to his will, and it will just recreate the current system.  Mao once said that power comes from the barrel of a gun, and until that changes, disarmament and military spending are a requisite to a stable society.  It's human nature, there can never be a society that spends nothing on defense or law enforcement, as humans are by their nature deceptive, theiving bastards.

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Of course, but you are saying defense not going to war. If the American government never started the Iraq war, and only insisted on providing maintenance to the already existing army they would probably need much less than 300 billion each year, that means theres what - 300 (or more) billion left? The ideal money to keep the social security thing going instead of letting it go tits up and even then still siphoning cash from it. Or the ideal money to give to charity who then would take charge of distributing the food and other needed commodities among those in poverty. Theres plenty of valid use for such a wad of cash, and the oil war certainly isn't one of them.

WOAH missing the point...

As for Gates: According to Forbes magazine, Gates is the world's wealthiest person, with a net worth of approximately US$51 billion, as of September 2005)

The foundation's grants have provided funds for underrepresented minority college scholarships, AIDS prevention, diseases that strike mainly in the Third World, and other causes. The Foundation currently provides 90% of the world budget for the attempted eradication of poliomyelitis (polio), the World Health Organization having "moved on" to other diseases. In June 1999, Gates and his wife donated US$5 billion to their foundation. They have donated more than US$100 million to help children suffering from AIDS. On January 26, 2005, it was announced that the Foundation had made a further contribution of US$750 million to the international Vaccine Fund to help fight diseases such as diphtheria, whooping cough, measles, poliomyelitis and yellow fever. As of 2005, the foundation has an endowment of approximately US$28 billion. To maintain its status as a charitable foundation, it must donate at least 5 percent of its assets each year. Thus the donations from the foundation each year would at least amount to over $1 billion.

Source: wikipedia

You do the math..

but yea if bill gate put his hand in his pocket there would be less death on the world

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Might I refer to the fact that mr and mrs Gates where elected people of the Year by Times for running the biggest charity foundation in the world. The Gates gave about 50% (if not more) of their capital to charity. So I wouldnt flame Gates on this one.. I dont see you giving away 50% of your money.

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Bill Gates should be flamed for making money on an OS anyway. The bitch sells a fucking bad product and makes a shitload of money with it. He closes it, so noone can learn from it, don't even think about improving it. And at last, WIN32 API sucks...

Your point is absolutely valid, but that doesn't make Gates bad as a person. He doesn't even lead M$ anymore. He gives away his money. I hate M$ as much as I hate any big corporation, but I tend not to be as hard on Gates personally. I just don't like his company.

I dont see the point, if its so bad why is everyone using it? What can windows do that linux cant? If you hate it so much then dont buy it, if you buy then you cant hate it.

The thing is, most games etc. are made for Windows. On my laptop I have both systems though, because uni wanted it that way. Linux is definately a good idea and it's really too bad most good games hardly can run in Linux (a certain program/library called Wine (no, not the alcohol containing one) would not work yet I've heard), but can in Windows.

The problem with linux is its very hard to set up, wireless and network is still very dificult evening setting up your sound and screen resolution. Now you can run a lot of windows aplications through Wine.

I would linux when it finally gets some decent wireless stuff together.

The problem with spending money only to maintain our military and not go to war in Iraq is that Saddam violated several treaties, which he put in place only so we couldn't go attack him. If he can get away with those treaties, so can all the surrounding countries that hate us. They all hate us religiously; that's never going to change and doesn't have to. However, as proven on 9/11, we can't effectively stop a terrorist attack once they get on US soil. If we take the fight to them, they can't hit us. If we wait for them to take the fight to us, we can't stop them. Then we would be losing even more people than we are in Iraq dealing with the constant terrorist attacks, and stuff would be blowing up all over the country. We couldn't stop them because they are mixed with our own people in disguise, free to casually walk to a grocery store and push the button. What we can do is keep them from coming over here in the first place. That's why we're in Iraq.

Am I missing something here or did you post in the wrong thread?

The problem with spending money only to maintain our military and not go to war in Iraq is that Saddam violated several treaties, which he put in place only so we couldn't go attack him.  If he can get away with those treaties, so can all the surrounding countries that hate us.  They all hate us religiously; that's never going to change and doesn't have to.  However, as proven on 9/11, we can't effectively stop a terrorist attack once they get on US soil.  If we take the fight to them, they can't hit us.  If we wait for them to take the fight to us, we can't stop them.  Then we would be losing even more people than we are in Iraq dealing with the constant terrorist attacks, and stuff would be blowing up all over the country.  We couldn't stop them because they are mixed with our own people in disguise, free to casually walk to a grocery store and push the button.  What we can do is keep them from coming over here in the first place.  That's why we're in Iraq.

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That is definatly a great way to think. If they hate us then we gotta make them love us. Iraq isn't "them", it's not the terrorist base or anything. Iraq is Iraq - it's a country and whether it stays or falls terrorists are still gonna be out there.

I honestly have no idea how can anyone believe the bullshit with Iraq spread by the US. It's bullshit, there were no terrorists there. There are now because they can kill americans more easily there than in america itself. It's obvious.

The thing is, most games etc. are made for Windows. On my laptop I have both systems though, because uni wanted it that way. Linux is definately a good idea and it's really too bad most good games hardly can run in Linux (a certain program/library called Wine  (no, not the alcohol containing one) would not work yet I've heard), but can in Windows.

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Try Cedega, it runs almost everything.

  The problem with linux is its very hard to set up, wireless and network is still very dificult evening setting up your sound and screen resolution. Now you can run a lot of windows aplications through Wine.

I would linux when it finally gets some decent wireless stuff together.

Try Ubuntu, it's even more easy to install than Windows. Though I got to admit, wireless on linux is teh suck.

I dont see the point, if its so bad why is everyone using it? What can windows do that linux cant? If you hate it so much then dont buy it, if you buy then you cant hate it.

I didn't fucking buy my windows. I ripped it. If you're a little into more advanced programming, coding, or hacking, you'll notice windows just isn't enough.

I need a decend, fast, commandline based C/C++ compiler for windows. Bring it to me!

And better perl support. Uh oh yeah, I forgot about a decent Graphical Network Mapper. And what about multiple desktop support?

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Are you trying to tell me that the reason Windows sucks is that you can't rip things or hax0r people on it so well?

If you get the right software, any system will function equally well. Except Mac, which obviously sucks But I digress. Most if not all of the functions you require can be attained by using Windows in conjunction with some available software.

If you just don't like the Windows interface, fair enough. I myself have never used anything else save school and college Macs, and I shiver at the thought.

On a related sidenote, that might improve your experience of MS interfaces:
If you want some fun, set your Windows boot.ini shell= to progman.exe instead of explorer.exe. Then reboot.
That interface is differently logical, I must say.

Windows really does rule if you compare it with mac os...

I didn't fucking buy my windows. I ripped it. If you're a little into more advanced programming, coding, or hacking, you'll notice windows just isn't enough.

Let me rephrase that then: if you use it dont say you hate it. If you hate it, use linux. If you're so tech savvy you should know that you can run anything on linux, it just requires a big load of effort and spare time. And theres Wine for those that refuse to run altogether.