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[FireFright]

Can I please have my account back.

Mods please leave this for the time being //Toxic

[ToxicShock]

Why should we do that?

[FireFright]

Since you have decided to keep this topic open then I can only assume that there is a chance that you would like to unban me and reinstate my main account.

 

I could attempt to write a huge wall of text trying to convince you to do this but previous negotiations involving this always end poorly so I'll keep it short.

 

I don't want to be banned anymore, I don't want to break your rules anymore, I don't know what to tell you to make this happen, so how about you tell me what you want from me.

 

Yes, I talked some smack in the beginning which resulted in the original ban that both sides will never agree on but if I could go back in time I'd have just served the original 30 day ban in order to prevent this, I think its also obvious that I have no intentions of ever letting this situation repeat itself.

 

You are the only one who can make this happen and I know that you know that I legitimately want to be unbanned and its not just because of the decade cup, I've been trying for years.

 

Anyway, you might just lock or delete this thread or respond with the normal stuff about how I'm something I'm not.

 

Can I please have my account back.

 

Green_ZERO

[Mathijs]

How about a sincere apology?

[~AngelOfDeath~]

How about a sincere apology?

 

Second that man.

[FireFright]

Like I said within my previous post, I should have just adhered to the original thirty day suspension if I had known how out of control this situation was going to get. The original ban reason may have been petty, but I guess its your server so I'm limited in justifying my actions there.

 

When I was handed a lifetime ban, I was essentially told "you have nothing to lose come at us bro", in my mind there was never any chance of ever being unbanned so I continued to circumvent everything you threw at me.

 

There was no appeal for me to behave or cooperate with you at this point in time, this is why I continued with my actions and if you are legitimate in your interest in unbanning me then you must see at least some of this from my perspective to understand why I did what I did.

 

If you are saying that if I apologise for this now (after three years of being banned keep in mind), that you will unban me, then this will result in a change in my attitude.

 

Therefore, I'm sorry I circumvented your bans to access the server illegitimately, at the time it seemed like a good idea but has resulted in this chaotic situation that I hope that you now wish to resolve with me. 

 

This has progressed for such a long time now, (three years) that I'm sure you can understand and appreciate that I want to end this as swift as possible and that I will certainly not let such actions be repeated.

 

Please can I have my account back.

 

Green_ZERO

[Mathijs]

I’m glad you’re sorry for that.

But you had plenty of chances that were communicated and you chose to ignore. And you forgot to apologize for when you lied to your friends to get their accounts and get them banned and when you threatened to rape our staff’s various relatives.

We’ll need to see a lot more contrition and honest reflection on all of your awful shit if you ever expect us to break our word and show leniency. Do you want to keep going or can I ban this gazillionth account now?

[FireFright]

Throughout all of our history there has never been a Revora admin legitimately interested in unbanning me at any point in time, the same is happening again.

 

I can see where this is going, but you simply have control of this conversation so I must respond and make an attempt to get unbanned.

 

Rape Jokes are something that I simply do not use and have no memory of using on any of your admins, searching throughout our history correlates with this. This is in no way meant to offend your accusations against me but whether you believe it or not I still maintain a level of integrity.

 

If I have made any rape jokes against you then I would be glad to apologise as I see them as very poor taste and not necessary to smack talk someone.

 

There is only two Revora admins that I have significantly communicated with, yourself (Mathijs) and Pasidon.

 

The last time I communicated with you Mathijs was over nine months ago and upon searching our chat history was unable to find any rape jokes of any kind.

 

Pasidon has not been communicated with for almost five months and once again, I was unable to locate any rape jokes with a search of the history. In fact, Pasidon had a tendency to threaten my parents almost every time we spoke to which I completely ignored.

 

Regarding any apologies to the players, this is not required as all of the players who lent me their accounts we well aware that it was likely they would be caught and this was clearly conveyed. Granola ever revealed the strategy of having the player blame everything on me in order to get their account back since I was banned for life it didn’t matter to me to take all the fall. It was simply “if you get caught, blame everything on me until you get your account back”, and of course you are aware that this worked every time.

 

If you would like an apology from me for implicating other players, then I’m sorry I brought them into the line of fire, it was wrong, once again at the time my attitude was different.

 

I’m unsure how much more you need, but as always I’m writing the following: “Please can I be unbanned and have my account back”, thank you.

 

Please do not lock the thread without giving me a chance to respond.

 

Green_ZERO

[Phx]

I always hear "gz could be unbanned if he wants to" or "gz hasnt tried to get unbanned", but i haven't seen gz disrupting tournaments, spamming accounts on revora, or avoiding his ban in a long time.  Ontop of that you can clearly see he is trying to reach out to the revora admins and asking what could be done to make this right. He is clearly trying and should be given a chance to redeem himself.

[incapaisa]

Look man

it's been 3 years

and as you know KW mean so much to GZ as you can see him doing Youtube and the previous work in the past.

 

Now he has made several malicious actions and reacted very negatively but here he is asking for a chance.

 

The passion and love he has for this one game shows and though I agree with him being banned I also agree we deserve a chance, a opportunity to redeem himself and show he can be part of our community once again.

 

It's your server, your rules..

 

Let him back in with a strict no tolerance 30 day probation period.

 

Let him show you he can change.  And if he returns to previous behavior..then re ban him and be done with it..

 

Game is really dead and low number of players and having one extra good player is always good for the playerbase.

[Pasidon]

I'm always spellbound when people come around here and talk about GZ like he's some sort of misunderstood piglet.  "Oh, he's a great guy that just loves the game."  "You should give him a second chance."  I would like to remind these people that he publicly denounces us on his channel / in his community routinely and has yet to even give us a platform to even speak to his audience.  And another reminder that I personally gave him his 100th chance with a 60 day prohibition offer and he completely turned it down and started harassing me.  The fact that we still get folks that trickle in here and still don't even know the situation is just evidence that he's still lying and playing the part of the victim to his audience.  No, we've been the receiving end of his verbal abuse and physical attempts at damaging our community and servers for far too long for us to even be slightly convinced that we're barring a good person from our servers.

 

And Greeny, no matter what happens, as a consolation prize for dragging me into this situation a year ago and wasting so much of my time with your sociopathic nonsense, I will make sure you remained barred from these servers for the rest of your life.  That is not me being petty, nor is it personal - as is is my duty as a morally upright individual to keep an actual mentally unsound person punished for his actions.  And the fact that you're in here begging us for this ban to be lifted is just evidence that our efforts to keep you out have been working, so if you ever come by my neck of the woods again with your "were r my bans" nonsense, I'll chummily remind you of this moment.

 

And as another prize, I'll leave this topic open even though there isn't a galactic chance that this ban is going anywhere. If anyone wants to tell me how much of a good person Green Zero again, let me know so I can counter you with the pile of personal threats and gutless trash-talk I have received from him for over a year, as well as a list of his other numerous indecencies that no sane man would ignore.  

[DuneTiger]

so even though he's apologised for the original reason for his ban, you contiune to keep him banned just due to personal attacks? That's definitely out of spite if you ask me. Pitty, really. It's a shame for the community that this is still going on 3 years later, whether because of GZ or the Revora Admins.

 

He is clearly apologizing for his actions in the past which got him the ban originally, I think that should be enough to unban him, but I guess those "personal attacks" are going to keep him off the server. What a joke.

[Phil]

I still haven't seen a sincere apology.

[Alquest]

I dont know anything about thins or u...

 

Im with the ADMINS! It's a crappy peice of text which does not show any insight.

 

Your problem, GZ, amonst other probaly, is not being able to distinguis good and bad. In the sense that the 'bad' you performed is downplayed, and the 'good' you have met is being considered 'bad'.

This probaly happens to every relation u have.

 

Also, if you want ppl to do someting for you, be very very very reluctant to write a words like 'you must'. Or 'ill do that if you...". It makes you look like a 6-year old.

 

Believe i or not, the above is your apology! Just tell in what way banning has an effect in the way you approach relation, and that you have noticed that a little effort and a lot of love have elevated your life in such a way that you just had to express your gratitude for being banned.

 

And last, for my fun, I would like to state that GZ is a very very good person, probaly declared Saint in a year or so, he helps the poor, he is very kind and has, in life, an auro so bright it illuminated the sky.

(I soooo want to see the 'other numerous indecencies that no sane man would ignore'.

 

Cheers!

[FireFright]

I still haven't seen a sincere apology.

 

This situation has been ongoing for almost three years now, myself along with the rest of the community just wish to see a swift end to this ban.

 

I've already apologised for circumventing all of the bans placed upon me and I once again apologise for these actions, I should never have circumvented the original ban (or any others for that matter) as I have previously stated.

 

I'm sorry for any actions I've taken against Revora in other related areas also, such as live streaming myself playing on the server, uploading YouTube footage of myself playing as well as mocking the admins. Even though circumventing the bans is bad in itself, there was really no reason aside from vengeance to further create issues like this for you and I apologise for this.

 

The above are just two examples and I'm sure there are many other instances that can be brought up which occurred over the last three years, but there is hardly any point left bringing them up anymore, it should be clear that this situation must end.

 

I'm not going to sugarcoat any of the things I have done and freely admit to them and are remorseful, this doesn't just hurt myself it also hurts the community.

 

The reason why the community so vigorously protects me is because they know me better then anyone.

 

I really don't know what else you require of me, I want to make it absolutely clear that I wish to be unbanned and mean no further harm to Revora, I am willing to accept whatever terms you may apply.

 

Please can my account be reinstated, thank you.

 

Green_ZERO

[Pasidon]

It doesn't even matter if it's a sincere apology.  We gave him an ungodly amount of chances already and he continued to be a terrible human being to us.  Him just going "oh, sorry" is just a confession that he has been doing something wrong this whole time and that our bans have been sincerely justified.  Yes - everyone that has been asking us to unban him this whole time was actually wrong in thinking he was innocent.  So he was lying to his audience this whole time by saying he was justified?  YES.  Exactly what we've been trying to tell people who don't listen.  Speaking of which...

so even though he's apologised for the original reason for his ban, you contiune to keep him banned just due to personal attacks? 

You're an example of a person that actually has no idea why he's banned if you think it's just words keeping him banned.  No - an example of a person who will never even read that incredibly detailed statement we made and will just take a side by misfortune of chronological order.  It's misfortune because you're defending someone who is actively lying to you and just apologized since he actually has been misleading you for years into thinking that he's some sort of glorified freedom fighter against an oppressive construct.  But really, you have no weight in this discussion since you won't actually take the time to figure out the situation.  In the words of someone you find very wise: "What a joke."

 

Edit Since Geen_Zero posted while I was typing

 

No, your community doesn't know you at all since you've been lying to them, and you have yet to even acknowledge that you've been manipulating them this whole time.  Apologize to them, not us.

[Pasidon]

Since Green Zero has made an effort to apologize, we will consider the situation and make our response to his request soon.

[Pasidon]

We got together and spoke about the situation, and as a conclusion, we've decided to reevaluate Green Zero's situation.  It isn't our place to say if his apology is genuine or not, but we also can't ignore the obnoxious behavior he has demonstrated to his fans and to us over the years.  Simply unbanning him would be unfair to us and everyone he has mistreated, so there must be consequences to that.

 

 

 

To Green Zero,
 

If we are to come to a final benchmark over the state of your ban, we have three guidelines you should follow if you are genuinely sorry for the trouble you caused:

 

1. An apology to the Revora staff and community, including an acknowledgement of everything you have done to deserve your bans.  Our Final Statement topic should be an adequate checklist for this part.  You know the link.  I'll unban your forum account so you can post your apology properly.  The apology, both this one and the one detailed in point 3, must also include a personal apology towards our admin Toxicshock, who has so often been the victim of your personal attacks and whose time you have so thoroughly wasted.

 

2. Stay out of our servers and events until the contrary is communicated to you.  This also includes making or posting footage of gameplay on our servers.  Do not disrespect or belittle our staff's good efforts again either.  We have no interest in letting you be a part of our community if you can't demonstrate mature behavior.

 

3. You have to apologize to your own community.  We know how you have used your position on YouTube as a podium to lie to and manipulate your audience into helping you belittle our staff, and that sort of behavior cannot be ignored.  You can't just make a topic here and expect that to be enough.  Since most of your community doesn't visit Revora, you must make a full, verbal video on your channel and address your audience with an apology that includes the entire truth of your situation.  We know what you've been telling your audience, so your apology should be detailed.  You only get one chance at this. If you can't apologize to your audience about lying to them, then you don't deserve their support and will not be unbanned.

 

We think these guidelines are reasonable. We ask that you acknowledge your actions and apologize to the people that deserve it.  If you don't comply, consider the matter of your ban permanently beyond reconsideration.