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#1 TKelly

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 03:42 PM

What formations would you like to see in this mod. Each horde or horde combination will have two more.
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#2 Lauri

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 05:58 PM

A flanking formation, the horde is split in two halves.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 07:52 PM

So they work as two seperate hordes or like:

^                ^                                                        ^
^                ^                                            ^                     ^
^                ^                                            ^                     ^
Note: ^ is a unit
Note 2: One on left is a level two or more horde, one on right is not.

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 10:46 PM

no they stay in one horde but attack from 2 sides, also make a box formation for combo hordes where the sword guys go all the way around the outside and the archers are inside
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Posted 17 September 2005 - 01:14 AM

Okay, I have the flanking horde, it has extra speed and extra attack, but less armor, tell me if I should do something different. I'll get a screenshot in soon, just fixed coordinates. I'm also makeing all good hordes have 10 units for better formations, don't worry prices will be increased


SHOULD THEY LOOK LIKE...
Note: S are soldiers A are archers

                                             S
                                        S  S  S  S  S
                                        S  A  A  A  S      
                                        S  A  A  A  S
                                           A  A  A  
                                              A            

Note: This is without banner upgrades for either

                                                     
                                        S  S  S  S  S
                                        S  A  A  A  S      
                                        S  A  A  A  S
                                        S  A  A  A  S
                                           A     A            
Note: This is with banner upgrade for both, substitute for intermixture of banner upgrade


OR


SHOULD THEY LOOK LIKE...

                                                
                                        S      S      S

                                            A  A  A
                                        S             S
                                            A  A  A 
                                        S             S
                                            A  A  A 
                                               A
                                        S      S      S              

Note: This is without banner upgrades for either

                                              S     
                                        S      S      S

                                            A  A  A
                                        S              S
                                            A  A  A 
                                        S              S
                                            A  A  A 
                                            A     A
                                        S      S      S          
Note: This is with banner upgrade for both, substitute for intermixture of banner upgrade

Edited by Gandalf, 17 September 2005 - 01:18 AM.

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Posted 17 September 2005 - 04:15 PM

Here's some updated/new formations.

Updated Default Gondor Soldier Formation
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New Flank Formation, With and Without banner upgrade (Almost double speed, slightly increased strength, half of their armor, any other suggestions would be appreciated)
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Updated Block Formation
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And a comination horde formation will be added with two gondor soldiers, ending up with 20 gondor soldiers!

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Edited by Gandalf, 17 September 2005 - 05:30 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2005 - 07:38 PM

Here is the last new Gondor Soldier Formation, and all of the updated/new Tower Guard Formations. I will be working on archers and knights next.

New Gondor Soldier Wedge Formation
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Updated Tower Guard Default
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Updated Tower Guard Wall Formation (2 Different Angles)
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New Tower Guard Wedge Formation
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New Tower Guard Aggressive/Trap Formation
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For Knights there will be two columns of horsemen, with 5 in each, allowing a long line of enemy troops to be squished.

Edited by Gandalf, 17 September 2005 - 07:39 PM.

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Posted 18 September 2005 - 12:45 AM

Updated Default Archer Formation
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Updated Archer Wedge Formation
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New Defensive Archer Formation
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New Speed Archer Formation
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And Elessar, is this what you were talking about? BTW, this next formation is awesome in large battles. You can also change back to the default combo horde formation.
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Posted 18 September 2005 - 03:43 AM

WOW very nice im impressed are you using gil-galads program to do this?
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Posted 18 September 2005 - 03:31 PM

No, I'm using graph paper, but once he has the newer version, I'll probably use it.
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Posted 18 September 2005 - 08:49 PM

:sleep: yes thatt is what i was talking about very good! :ninja:
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Posted 18 September 2005 - 09:23 PM

Here's The Ranger's Formations, and another fighterarcher combo

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EDIT: BTW, I'm going to make it so that you can combine two fighterarcher combos and make a long wall of them

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Posted 18 September 2005 - 11:32 PM

New Feature of The Formation Mod, Combo Hordes can now change Formations

Here is another FighterArcher Forrmation
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Updated Knight Formations
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 08:34 PM

they are cool, the box one looks like the archers are cramped in
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 08:38 PM

Ok, yeah, I was going to fix that. Does anybody have any suggestions. Especially interesting ones. I'm really really bored. My stupid IT homework, from my stupid IT class where we learn how to save STUPID Documents :p

EDIT: BTW, the main reason of the post was to ask for suggestions, not about my STUPID classes.

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Posted 21 September 2005 - 06:41 PM

i cant remember if you've already said this, but if you're making a formations mod, you definitely need to include combo formations for trebs/cats/ballista, at least with the standard soldier unit. another good idea, if you haven't done it yet, is make it so the SoR/lancers can form a combo.
you could also make ent or troll combo formations (you might wanna make ent/troll hordes first). You might even try and make a way so that heroes can form combos, with each other and/or other units.
Other more generic (boring) formations would be circle/semicircle shaped ones, but they'd probably be pretty hard to do. perhaps an inverted wedge formation too if you want. you could also do a column formation, where they line up like 2 or 3 side by side, but really long.
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Posted 21 September 2005 - 08:06 PM

Yeah, I have the column formation for knights, 2x5, then they can form a horde with eachother, making it 4x5, a orcs worst nightmare. And I like the idea of Hero, troll, and ent formations, the only is with heroes, the commandset is going to be all messed up, but I'll try
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Posted 23 September 2005 - 10:09 PM

I have an idea. For a double archer horde, they would make two circles, with a slightly smaller one inside the larger one. Hopefully not everyone would fire at the exact same time for the full potential. If it's too hard boxes are fine. Then if you can get it to work, have another soldier horde or two come around the outside in another circle. But the basic thing is what I really want.

Edit: I saw the version one stats, and if you can only do it with one group of soldiers it would be fine.

Then another combo archer horde would be to have them form three, or four, lines that are spaced so that one sees the enemy and fires, then the next, then the next. I'm not sure how far apart that would be, but atleast 5-10 spaces on a plane.

Edited by |MeMw| Ecthelion, 23 September 2005 - 10:12 PM.

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