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#1 boga02

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 05:50 PM

Please vote and reply with reasons for what you think,



Personally I think the EU is farcical and pointless, plus the fact that they are trying to make Europe into an new US, also people here in the UK will soon be up to our knees with Romanians and Bulgarians who are intent on taking British people's jobs, and their 'good' and 'easy' metric system can be very very confusing.

WTF where did the poll go?

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 06:00 PM

metric is the best thing that have happened to anyone of us. if you have any trouble understanding that then i dunno how much i should worry about your worries on EU.

but anyway, i'm against it and our country is not a part of it. mostly because we worry too much about fishing and farming being taken out of business by cheaper labour. i have very little against it when it comes to uniting europe so that we don't start more world wars over minor things.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 06:04 PM

It's a very good development. While I don't agree with everything, it's certainly good in that it helps even out and strengthen the unity between the countries. Too many people bicker on old differences, when it's far more productive to realise that in the end we're all similar. Still different, but also the same in some ways. Similar, but unique and distinct at the same time. This is how I see a unified Europe. Not a single country with one language, one culture and everything. Each country stays as it is, a separate entity with an identity of its own. But it's also part of a greater whole, which is the EU.

Metric is a simple, easy to use system that anyone can understand. It uses 10 as a base number, just like our own counting systems use. If you can't understand metric, then think of all the people that have to learn your weird system... it can't get easier than metric as far as I can see.

And those of you that complain that people are taking 'your' jobs... well the whole point of the EU is to create a common market. If you don't want to help people out that haven't the same chances as you do, then I suggest you get stuffed. Romanians and Bulgarians have it hard enough, and you don't even want to share some of your relative wealth to help them out a bit? Then sure, turn the EU into yet another elitist exclusive collection of bollocks, but that's not the EU I want to live in.

With that attitude, please don't be in the EU, cause if you do you'll only make it worse.
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Posted 29 September 2006 - 06:09 PM

Potentially a good idea if it was in the hands of people. When in the hands of elite capitalists and corporatists it becomes dangerous. People just need to decide what type of Europe they want, because the EU will most likely become a reality one way or another in the next decade or two.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 06:11 PM

we got a Latvian worker on our farm, he works very hard, been in the red army and after what i've heard also been a bodyguard for politicians. gets paid normal wagers and all. best thing that has happened to us in a long time. i'm not afraid of the workers, i'm more afraid of the marked.

besides, we got the minor EU deal which have partial trading freedom, but with a few restrictions and alot of extra taxes which goes to whatever the EU wants really. also, if EU makes some law, we pretty much get it too after what i know, so basically we're a member but we don't have anything to say, except that we are not affected too much by competition on stuff that means a bit for our country like fishing and farming.

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Posted 29 September 2006 - 08:44 PM

also people here in the UK will soon be up to our knees with Romanians and Bulgarians who are intent on taking British people's jobs



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The number coming from bulgaria? Actually it's the number of British people living abroad. but hey, one rule for us and another for them, right?

Only two percent of romanians and bulgarians surveyed said they want to come to England. Apparently they can't stand the weather, so I believe most of them are going to Spain and Italy and such like.
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Posted 29 September 2006 - 08:59 PM

Was a good idea at first, now bad I don't agree with the protectionist policys of the trade barriers, the whole world should be a free market. I also don't agree with the common agricultural policy that takes up a lot of money to give French farmers money, there is a figure that the average EU cow is paid more than the average world salary! duke_Qa Norway isn't even in the EU so your lucky really.

The EU does it have a future? Doubt it unless they open up the free market more world wide, scrap the idea of the joint EU armed forces, get rid of the French attitude on the CAP, give the UK back its rebate. And to expand further East and the whole metric system, way to confusing I use metres and miles!
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Posted 29 September 2006 - 09:10 PM

Arh come on! The imperial system is almost as confusing as when you had three coins(do you still have?).
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Posted 29 September 2006 - 09:22 PM

Arh come on! The imperial system is almost as confusing as when you had three coins(do you still have?).


Yeah but your used to it, I use miles for naviagtion and mesure things in metric, its sort of been mixed together oddly, and I think thats the way it will remain.
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Posted 29 September 2006 - 10:30 PM

We learned the new system almost 200 years ago. What's taking you so long?
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Posted 29 September 2006 - 11:02 PM

Proberly because we are closer to the US than the EU in terms of way of life. We are far more like Americans than Europeans drinking wine and eating some garlic by the seaside. Brits usually just get drunk, eat a burger and finish the evening with a good old fight.
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Posted 30 September 2006 - 01:33 AM

norwegians gets pissed every weekend on overprized beer and eat junkfood just as much as americans, but that hasnt stopped us from going metric.

we might not be in the EU, but we are in the European Economic Area, which gives us the ability of free trade and travel up to a certain point, there is alot of stuff i don't know about it.

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