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Posted 03 October 2006 - 07:59 PM

Last night I had a dream involving an Aboriginal Australian, today in art I had sn Aboriginal Art homework due. i had forgoten about it, that is until I thought about my dream, and then remembered my homework.

Was that a mir coincidence, or was i trying to Sub-Consciously warn my self
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 08:04 PM

You have somewhere near a few hundred thousand dreams per second. I wouldn't consider it remarkable, but I've had a few instances of deja vu. Nothing big, little things, happens to everyone, we just don't remember most dreams unless something similar happens, much like people who repress memories until a later trauma or event.
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 08:09 PM

there are two different parts of the mind to begin with. you have the logical linguistic and symbolic left brain which controls the right arm and eye and so forth. and then you have the creative and more instinctive right part of the brain that you have to train up to become good at drawing and that kinda thing.

personally i believe that the right brain might be more the home of the subconcious mind than the left one. but i'm just blabbering here. i just had to go through all the lefts and rights to make sure i've written them right, which i havent.


naturally, subconscious is an interesting thing. is it a different personality, or is it a sort of "root" program that has the same abilties as you, but less drivers in the way so it is more blunt but notices things that you don't really do or refuse to of some reason...

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 08:46 PM

The dreams you remember tend to be symbolic for something you need to either confront, do or remember in your active conscious life.

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 05:43 PM

been reading up on lucid dreaming have we? :ninja:

yeah, dreams that you remember most likely hit a chord that you have a problem with. sometimes its straightforward as eat healthier foods, and other times it might be things that you don't really want to think about but your subconsciousness wants to dig up.

Alot of people who train themselves at getting lucid dreams have been chased in a dream by some dark scary thing(we all know those, where you try to run but are unable to get anywhere quickly), and then they realize "hey, this is a dream, theres nothing that can happen to me here, as i am god here(the basics of lucid dreaming really; understand you are dreaming and become god instead of a slave of it)". then they turn around and say "who the hell are you?!" and the evil being usually turns into something else and can say something like "i'm your fear of losing your loved ones" or something else that is causing them distress in life. quite often it can be something that they've never really expected, but when its said it becomes obvious.

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 09:53 PM

Dreaming's more of a mental health repair system. You forget it because it's like running a process in RAM, the evidence just goes away and you don't remember 99.999% of them, but like repressed memories, in the event of something similar, you will remember something.
And the chances of similar events aren't astronomical. Dreams are affected by ongoing events in your life, and you dream about two hours a night, with dreams coming pretty quickly, in the matter of a fraction of a second. It's not really surprising.
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Posted 05 October 2006 - 10:08 PM

When I was still on medication I often remembered my dreams because I'd wake up in the middle of the night often just after or during a dream. It was really weird. I had that almost every day, before that you don't really fully realise that you dream every night. I do think dreams are in some way connected to us and our experiences and thoughts. It's not always clear how though.

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 06:52 AM

In speaking of dreams, sometimes you dream events and they come true....it's amazing. Oh, and I had a dream last night that I was a conscript...

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 10:35 AM

That's fantastic. I think we've already come to a consensus that with the number of dreams you dream, some of them must come true. Also your subconscious mind acts as a contaminant, flooding your mind with subliminal thoughts that, if they occur, could feel like deja vu. Very interesting topic, it's been investigated by tons of neuroscientists and they still know very little about the entire process.
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 12:14 PM

Has anyone here researched the supposed existence of the "astral plane of existence" and how lucid dreams are said to be part of that existence. Dreams could be of something much higher as well, especially the ones you tend to remember. Whilst spence will argue against me, just remember i don't believe in coincidence spence, as where others do. Either way both ideas are plausible.

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 03:09 PM

I always have deja vus.. its kinda weird because they are so often. :p

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 04:51 PM

I always get deja vu and i got it very frequently when i was stoned. Sometimes i could or thought i could remember what people were going to say next, it really freaked me out. I realise this could be weed just playing tricks on my mind, but it happened a few times when i wasn't stoned as well. A lot of the time when i was stoned I got the feeling I had done this life before. It was really weird and is difficult to explain to people who obviously haven't experienced it. Yeah... really odd to explain. heh.

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 05:31 PM

Yes, we understand...

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 08:23 PM

You might understand, and that's a real accomplishment, so I figure that post can be left intact, but not all of us understand.
Coincidence is much easier and much more probable, especially compared with the new spiritual marijuana induced plane of existence where you can perceive the future, even though that's impossible by the simple fact that every time the future changes, a new parallel universe is created.
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 09:19 PM

So, if you smoke pot, you create an alternate reality?

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Posted 06 October 2006 - 10:05 PM

No, spence just doesn't understand the feeling, so he'll make up some stupid comment because it doesn't go with hand in hand science.

And spirituality is entirely seperate from marijuana effects. Marijuana just makes you see into things or think about things more deeply. But the effects of the "withdrawal" which is entire created by the psychology of the mind makes it quite pointless if you've continually smoked alot for a few consecuative years. Few months time i should feel better than I do now and may be able to put the experience into a better context, at this moment i cannot be bothered to even try argue such a point.

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Posted 07 October 2006 - 12:04 AM

Marijuana just makes you see into things or think about things more deeply.

Actually it just fires a few receptors which have a depressant effect, causing a semi-drowsiness and a less alert state.

But the effects of the "withdrawal" which is entire created by the psychology of the mind makes it quite pointless if you've continually smoked alot for a few consecuative years.

It's more of an over-presence of developed receptors that causes a physically induced psychological effect. It's most certainly a medical process, it's just not made any better by the mind.

So, if you smoke pot, you create an alternate reality?

And you were showing so much promise...
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Posted 07 October 2006 - 12:10 AM

Actually it just fires a few receptors which have a depressant effect, causing a semi-drowsiness and a less alert state.

Yes! But it also does what i stated above. You cannot argue against that spence if you have no experienced it yourself.

It's more of an over-presence of developed receptors that causes a physically induced psychological effect. It's most certainly a medical process, it's just not made any better by the mind.

Of course, but after 3 months the cannoids (however its spelt) are usually "cleared" out by the system and most of the effects are gone. You feel more awake and more alive in this sense.

The multiverse theory states that for every action in the universe, due to the laws of quantum mechanics and probability, another, parallel, almost identical universe is created hinging off of that single event. Think of it as a fork in the road. The theory also purports that there is an infinite number of parallel universes, each of them different in some way from our own. Whether we know it or not, our universe is constantly changing and generating new parallel universes. We're not the "real" universe either, all the other universes are quite as real with the same organisms and celestial bodies populating them, with nothing changed except for the event of divergence, and any resulting effects, and then of course the natural continuing events of the universe. Logically, the theory works with everything we know about atomic structure and the general reasoning of the universe. We know a lot more than we give ourselves credit for, really.

I personally believe in this theory. I realise the evidence to support it is not entirely conclusive, but i believe in the next few decades or so we will see some advancement into this area.

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Posted 07 October 2006 - 12:21 AM

Of course, but after 3 months the cannoids (however its spelt) are usually "cleared" out by the system and most of the effects are gone. You feel more awake and more alive in this sense.

Proteins are temporary. Receptors are for almost ever in the brain. It's why you never really end caffeine withdrawal, you just stop feeling the effects because your body normalizes.
Also, eat miso soup. It dumps lots of nutrients out of your body and can be used to flush your system.
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Posted 07 October 2006 - 05:38 AM

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