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[Stargazer]

the last episode had alot to do with it.

it was about Shinji coming to love himself instead of hainge himself, it was him REJECTING the instrumentality project which occured in the movie.

it's deep whether you like it or not.

Gundam Seed storyline is just refurbished crap which we've seen in just about every gundam show.

[Darkspleen]

Gundam Seed is the first gundam show (and one of the only anime shows that I've watched) that addresses some moral issues.

[Stargazer]

Gundam Seed is the first gundam show (and one of the only anime shows that I've watched) that addresses some moral issues.

and there in lies the problem.

go watch Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Code Geass, Ghost In The Shell Stand Alone Complex (+2nd GiG), Hellsing Ultimate OVA's, Death Note, Full Metal Alchemist, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, and Macross Plus.

Also if you want to watch a GOOD gundam, watch Zeta Gundam and Char's Counterattack.

and it never really adressed the moral issue, it was basically "how do we start another war without completely ripping off the original gundam? oh I know! cliche genetically enhanced super humans fighting normal ones! that's never been done before!"

It never addressed it, it never even made a real ending to it.

both have a war and draw, both have a second one and draw.

in the movie there will probably be another war, but in the last few seconds Kira will ultimate wtf pwn spam attack and destroy the known universe.

[bucky699]

Gundam seed was good, destiny sucked and i have already told you all before that Evangelion is the anime love of my life im just comparing Gundam seed to the animes i've seen lately. Unfortunatly i havnt seen to much latley aside from my weekly bleach and the OCCASIONAL release of Ergo Proxy when Shinsen subs decides to do one, seriously im so tempted to change subbers but they do such a good job.

Anyway i liked seed because it did for me confront multiple moral issues especially of the futility of war and the truth in the fact that as long as humans exist there will always be conflict in this world, but also the chance to resolve it. Gundam paints a very real picture of what we ourselves are well on the way to becoming, and im not talking in the sence of genetic engineering (also another moral issue addressed, cloning mostly but we are comning into the technological age where GE is entirly plausable.) With the current world state we are heading towards wars on a global scale, between religions, hell the war on terrorism is already a world war of sorts, its just a quieter one.

Now its time to poke holes at Darkspleen, ok you may not have liked Eva personaly but if you didnt like it then you more then likely didnt watch it more then twice which you really need to to understand the complexity of the story and depth behind it. Your actions of watching it were based on the mecha action and yea mine were at first until i grasped the concepts of what was happening behind the battles. Evangelion is kind of more Psychological series that delves into the human syche and alot of philisophical and religious subjects.

You wont enjoy it as much if your not into that sort of thing.

[Darkspleen]

I've watched it more then twice, and its not like I only like mecha/action anime either. I'm not *that* shallow.

P.S. One of the moral issues I liked that Seed addressed was racism.

[Stargazer]

If you had watched it more than twice, then you mustn't have been paying attention at all.

you said the last episode had nothing to do with the series.

it had EVERYTHING to do with the series, it's Shinji refusing the instrumentality project and learning to love himself, over the entire series Shinji has hated himself constantly.

it's about him learning to love himself and strive to be an individual, to be himself, to not care about what others think.

[bucky699]

ahh just leave it SG mere mortals will never comprehend the greatness of NGE

[Stargazer]

i'm no mortal, i'm an anime pimp, so obviously I can comprehend it.

[Strike FreedomX]

so you didn't like it cause the characters were deep and actually good compared ot gundam, the story was deep and not the same old reused shit they use in gundam, and the fights were short but put together very very well.

Asuka taking on the Eva Series > all other mech fights.

I'm not saying gundam was better, gundam had the same if not more un-actiony bs.

[Darkspleen]

Gundam Seed is the first gundam show (and one of the only anime shows that I've watched) that addresses some moral issues.

and there in lies the problem.

go watch Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Code Geass, Ghost In The Shell Stand Alone Complex (+2nd GiG), Hellsing Ultimate OVA's, Death Note, Full Metal Alchemist, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, and Macross Plus.

Also if you want to watch a GOOD gundam, watch Zeta Gundam and Char's Counterattack.

and it never really adressed the moral issue, it was basically "how do we start another war without completely ripping off the original gundam? oh I know! cliche genetically enhanced super humans fighting normal ones! that's never been done before!"

It never addressed it, it never even made a real ending to it.

both have a war and draw, both have a second one and draw.

in the movie there will probably be another war, but in the last few seconds Kira will ultimate wtf pwn spam attack and destroy the known universe.

When I said "one of the only anime shows that I've watched" I was including Code Geass, Full Metal Alchemist, and Stand Alone Complex. It not like I said 'Gundam Seed is the only anime show to ever address any moral issues. And it wasn't really about "genetically enhanced super humans fighting normal ones!" It was about different groups of people fighting because one group of people thought they were superior to another. Hmmm. What does this sound like? It reminds me of the time that slavery was legal in the U.S. Why? Because the slave owners thought they were superior to the Africans.

Personally I think they should've made NGE 50 episode long, then they could have explained it better. Especially the ending. Because that last episode kinda jumped out of know where. (Or was I supposed to watch the movie before the last episode, because that seems to be more logical)

[Crusader]

Well from what I've heard from NGE fans, the creator was checked into a mental institute at the end of the series. the entire series had a certain mind-tearing factor to it, if one is to think about it.

good stuff though.



P.S. - What the hell happened here while I was gone? seriously u go to florida for one week and all hell breaks loose.

[Darkspleen]

Even being here, I'm not exactly sure how it got this bad. =P

[bucky699]

lol yea it turned from me asking about bleachs one week absence to a full blown evangelion rules/sucks debate

[Crusader]

Wow, anyways I guess I should be proud to've started the second most popular anime topis after the Gunda Seed Movie one, which is more or less due to its controversiality.

[bucky699]

lol dont be too proud man, it aint that hard to start us off in the wrong direction. Drop one lil comment and watch us burn out of control

[Crusader]

o well, it's an accomplishment ^^

[eviltiki100]

I highly recommend samurai champloo. I saw cowboy bebop but I didn't like it nearly as much as samurai champloo. The action just seems so much cooler and realistic than bleach... It's too bad that it only had like 1/3 the episodes that bleach has :\.

[bucky699]

thats because samurai champloo is based in real life situations, its pretty historicaly accurate in most places. Bleach is set in a bit more fantasy style setting then SC cause well yea duh shinigami and big monsters lol samurai champloo is good but i wouldnt recomend it over bleach, nor would i recommend bleach over samurai champloo they both have their great points and both have their downsides. One thing i dont like about bleach is that i dont like it when animes run for too long so the fillers before the current arc really pissed me off cause i knew they werent the storyline that was spose to be in at the time.

[Crusader]

which is exactly why they have Mangas ^^

[bucky699]

hehe yay 121 came out finally, pretty good fun watching ichigo get pummeld literally lol. But yay now it looks as tho the next ep he seeks out the vaizard and thus will begin learning to master the hollow inside mwhahahahahaa