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[TheEmpire]

Maybe the battle dragon but nothing else.

[Kaleb Graff]

Maybe the battle dragon but nothing else.

Still be hard to do, and I can think of much more important projects. (New Class, Viscount, land, etc.)

[TheEmpire]

Not really once you have a model. But your right those other projects are more important.

[the drazz]

Well, I have found mods with Battle Dragons, so it has been done if anyone wants to do it... maybe i'll create one as a learning project of my own.

[Kaleb Graff]

Go right ahead, I guess. I just don't want PR to work on that instead of the ground mod.

[blue4n]

Ok this is a great idea it adds the want to take over certain planets with a greater navy! Like if you took over sullust you would get special acsese to their ship yards!

Edited by blue4n, 05 June 2008 - 04:43 PM.

[Kaleb Graff]

Ok this is a great idea it adds the want to take over certain planets with a greater navy! Like if you took over sullust you would get special acsese to their ship yards!

That kind of already happens, with planetary ship cost reductions. This is just a step further.

[keraunos]

Well, many mods already have it, but that's not how PR works. AI is unable to benefit from shipyard (as it doesn't understand how to use them effectivelly); the only solution is to script things. PR decided to go more flexible way, by allowing certain-sized shipyards to build certain ships. That idea worked very well, and changing it to planet-specific builds will make players focus on them to cripple AI; Moreover, it will make certain campaigns (the ones with less planets) less playable. I'd prefer to go 'old way', only including cost bonuses...

[jdk002]

Personally, planet-specific ships seem to be a waste of effort when there's a lot of other things that could be worked on.

Well, many mods already have it, but that's not how PR works. AI is unable to benefit from shipyard (as it doesn't understand how to use them effectivelly); the only solution is to script things. PR decided to go more flexible way, by allowing certain-sized shipyards to build certain ships. That idea worked very well, and changing it to planet-specific builds will make players focus on them to cripple AI; Moreover, it will make certain campaigns (the ones with less planets) less playable. I'd prefer to go 'old way', only including cost bonuses...

I agree, this is the other reason I'd avoid planet-specific ships.

Edited by jdk002, 06 June 2008 - 10:16 PM.

[Kaleb Graff]

I agree as well. Some planets could unlock specific ships, but ships shouldn't be buildable only at specific planets.

[the drazz]

I agree as well. Some planets could unlock specific ships, but ships shouldn't be buildable only at specific planets.

Could this be done in the same way that Conquering a planet unlocks a buildable hero?

[Tropical Bob]

We could have a planet occupation unlock a research option for that ship buildable at that planet, and once it's done you get to build/upgrade it anywhere. That way, you need to have possession of the planet for a little while, but then it's not restricted to the specific planet. And it makes sense, as when you know how to build a ship, why stop making it when you lose the planet you started at?

[Kaleb Graff]

We could have a planet occupation unlock a research option for that ship buildable at that planet, and once it's done you get to build/upgrade it anywhere. That way, you need to have possession of the planet for a little while, but then it's not restricted to the specific planet. And it makes sense, as when you know how to build a ship, why stop making it when you lose the planet you started at?

That's basically what I was suggesting. Some ships are unlocked when you take a specific planet, but can be built by one or both sides.

[El Danny]

We could have a planet occupation unlock a research option for that ship buildable at that planet, and once it's done you get to build/upgrade it anywhere. That way, you need to have possession of the planet for a little while, but then it's not restricted to the specific planet. And it makes sense, as when you know how to build a ship, why stop making it when you lose the planet you started at?

How would one go about implementing this using XMLs? I imagine it being rather compicated.

[Tropical Bob]

It would just go in the tech tree for each side, but the prerequisite, rather than being "universal start/research building" or "ship x research completed," it would be something like "capture planet y." I don't believe it would be too hard. The only difficult part would be figuring out the right way of wording the capture in the code. I think.

[Kaleb Graff]

It would just go in the tech tree for each side, but the prerequisite, rather than being "universal start/research building" or "ship x research completed," it would be something like "capture planet y." I don't believe it would be too hard. The only difficult part would be figuring out the right way of wording the capture in the code. I think.

That sounds right.