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#1 Casen

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 11:18 PM

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Timeline-191 is a fan name given to a series of Harry Turtledove alternate history novels, including How Few Remain as well as the Great War, American Empire, and Settling Accounts series. The name is derived from Robert E. Lee's Special Order 191, which detailed the Army of Northern Virginia's invasion of the Union in September 1862 during the American Civil War. The divergence occurs when Union forces do not find a copy of Special Order 191, on September 10, 1862. The novels detail the consequences of this up until 1944 in the alternate world.


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The War of Secession

1862: Special Order-191 is recovered by a Confederate soldier; in our history the Union capture of that order enabled the Army of the Potomac to turn back the Army of Northern Virginia's invasion of the north in the Battle of Antietam. The Army of the Potomac is later crushed at the Battle of Camp Hill enabling the Confederacy to capture Philadelphia and to win diplomatic recognition from France and Great Britain. The United States are forced to grant the Confederacy independence.


The Uneasy Peace

1863: Canada is created.

1864: Abraham Lincoln (then Republican) is beaten at the presidential election by Horatio Seymour (Democrat).

1870s: Cuba is bought by the Confederate States.

1871: Germany unified into a single sovereign state (As in OTL).

1877: Samuel J. Tilden (Democrat) becomes President of the U.S.A.

1880: James Longstreet (Whig) becomes President of the the C.S.A.

1881: James G. Blaine (Republican) becomes President of the U.S.A. Known for his hardline anti-Confederacy policies.


The Second Mexican War

1881 : The C.S.A. purchases Sonora and Chihuahua from the Mexican Empire for $3,000,000. The U.S. uses the purchase as a pretext for declaring war upon the Confederacy.

1882: James Longstreet enters the C.S.A into an alliance with Britain and France. This results in a victory for the Confederacy once more; however, Northern Maine is lost to Canada. The only major victory for the U.S in the war was in Montana, where forces under Theodore Roosevelt and George Armstrong Custer were able to repel the British invaders. The U.S. also starts an alliance with the German Empire. On the Confederate side the phasing out of slavery starts, although heavy segregation is kept. The day of the Armistice (April 22) becomes Remembrance Day in the U.S.A. It is treated a somber commemoration holiday.

In the aftermath of the war, Republican party splits, with Socialist Party forming under leadership of former President Abraham Lincoln. Democrats become permanent majority party. Confederacy keeps their new Mexican states and plans to build railway from Texas - Gulf of California (Pacific).


Before the Great War

1882: Former President Abraham Lincoln splits Republican Party, forming a new Socialist Party. CSA builds railway connecting Texas with port city of Guaymas, Sonora.

1894: The C.S.A attempts to build a canal crossing through Central America, but this plan is shelved after the U.S.A threatens war.

1901(?): Hispano-Japanese War. Japan wins, and as a result hold Chosen and Formosa (Korea and Taiwan in OTL) Guam and the Philippines.

1903: Russia joins the Britain/France/Confederacey alliance.

1909: Woodrow Wilson elected president of the Confederacy.

1912: Theodore Roosevelt elected president of the U.S.A.

The Confederacy aligns with Britain/France/Russia in the Quadruple Entente. By necessity, the USA allies with Germany, Austria-Hungary, Italy. US Military reorganized along German lines.


The Great War

1914

* June 28: Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo. Pro-Serbian terrorists hit Franz Ferdinand's car with a bomb (in OTL the bombers fail, and the Archduke is instead shot by Gavrilo Princip, a member of the same cell).

* Late July: Mobilization of the U.S.A. and Germany.

* August: The Austro-Hungarian Empire accuses Serbia of backing the assassination; this leads to war between the two. The Alliance system means that Russia, France and Britain side with Serbia and Germany with Austro-Hungary. The United States declare war on the Confederate States and Canada, and launch an invasion of both countries; in the instance of the C.S.A., Kentucky and western Virginia are attacked. The Confederates launch a counter-invasion through Maryland and Pennsylvania, and succeed in occupying Washington D.C. In the Pacific Ocean, the U.S.A. captures the Sandwich Islands from Britain.

As presaged by the attempted invasion of Kentucky by the USA in 1882, trench warfare soon develops on most fronts in North America. The series concentrates on the deadlock on the Maryland/Pennsylvania border, the Kentucky front, the Roanoke Valley front, and skirmishes in Sequoyah (OTL Oklahoma).

1915

* Winter: The armies on the North American continent are slowed down by the cold. In both Europe and North America Christmas truces bring the fighting to a tantalizingly temporary halt.

* Early part of the year: Utah attempts to secede from the U.S.A. in rebellion. US Army troops are sent to quash the rebellion.

* Autumn: Red Rebellion of the black population of the Confederacy. Communist rebellions pop up throughout the South, particularly in areas with a high black population.

The war remains stalemated, with American forces unable to break through to Guaymas, Nashville, Washington D.C., Winnipeg, Montreal, Quebec City. Use of poison gas merely causes increased misery for the infantrymen.

1916

Stalemate remained the rule on all fronts. Even a new USA invention, the barrel (OTL Tank), did not live up to expectations due to poor tactical deployment. The only progress took place in the West, where the Mormons were crushed and US forces made progress in Texas and Sequoya. The Confederacy is forced to divert military resources to take on the Red forces rampaging throughout many parts of the South.

1917

Thanks to a rare flash of insight by aging General George Custer, the US Army finally learns to deploy barrels en-masse. US forces under Custer finally smash through Confederate lines in Tennessee, seizing Nashville. In Canada, Winnipeg and Quebec City fall, and a puppet Quebec government declares independence from Canada. Soon the Confederacy's ally, France, is forced to capitulate to the Germans (in OTL, American soldiers reinforce the French by this time). Using Custer's barrel tactics, a breakthrough is achieved in Maryland, and Washington retaken by US forces. Despite a last-minute use of Negro soldiers by the CSA, the war is lost by late 1917.

The Confederates fared quite poorly in the aftermath of the Great War. Areas north of the Rappahannock River in Virginia were added to West Virginia, Kentucky re-joined the Union, Sequoya was seized, and portions of West Texas (called the State of Houston) left Texas and also joined the Union.


I could copy and paste the whole thing, but, meh, read the article. It got me into it.

Edited by Kacen, 29 November 2009 - 11:26 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2009 - 11:27 PM

Seems interesting indeed... History combined with fiction. I think I'll like this :p
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 11:30 PM

Let us summarize so far:

- Confederacy wins the civil war, remains a separate country.

- The U.S.A. never buys Alaska from Russia.

- U.S.A. sides with Central Powers when World War I roles around, while the Confederacy sides with the Entente powers.

- Tanks are called "Barrels", Custer is never killed at Little Bighorn and is a tank general in World War I and develops the "Barrel Role" offensive using loaned German tanks to break the stalemate on the Mason-Dixon Line.

- Mormons continuously rebel and are persecuted in Utah by the U.S.A.

- Central Powers win World War I with the U.S.A.'s help, Britain, France, Russia, and the Confederacy loose.

- U.S.A. invades and occupies Canada, except for Quebec, which becomes an independent puppet state of the U.S.A.

- By 1927, the Red Army is defeated by the White Russians, the Soviet Union never exists and Russia remains Tsarist.



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American Empire

Following the Great War, the United States and German Empire are the dominant world powers. The United States has occupied Canada (less the Republic of Quebec, a U.S. puppet state) and Sequoyah, has annexed Kentucky and portions of Texas, Arkansas, Sonora and Virginia, and has placed the rebellious state of Utah under military occupation. Having led the U.S. to victory, Theodore Roosevelt now faces a challenge to his third-term bid by the Socialist candidate Upton Sinclair, and struggles to maintain order in the occupied territories as rebels and terrorists strike.

Meanwhile, in a defeated Confederacy wracked by hyper-inflation and despair, a former Confederate Army sergeant named Jake Featherston and his Freedom Party are preaching a message of hate, blaming the southern aristocracy and the "niggers who stabbed us in the back" (ie. Red negro uprisings of 1915-16) for the Confederacy's defeat.

The European situations mirrors North America: the aging Kaiser Wilhelm II and his victorious Germans fight to hold onto captured Belgium, Alsace-Lorraine, and the Ukraine, and their vassal state of Poland. The Roman Catholic Action Francaise wishes to topple the Third Republic and enthrone Charles XI, while Oswald Mosley's Silver Shirts are a growing power in the British Parliament.

In 1929, like in OTL, the world economy crashes and the Great Depression begins, paving the way for fanatics and demagogues the world over to seize power.

In Canada, Canadian nationalists attempt a rebellion, but it fails. When the Japanese are caught giving aid to Canada in hopes of creating another rebellion, the U.S. goes to war, however it only ends in a stalemate and accomplishes nothing.

Thanks to the Great Depression, many in the CSA turn to the Freedom Party to turn things around. As a result, Jake Featherston is elected president in 1933. Almost immediately, he begins to take action in his intentions and gets rid of anyone in his way. He abolishes the supreme court when they veto his dam building project. He also begins enlarging the army, under the excuse that he needs to quell the black rebellion that begins to break out. Near the end of his term, he changes the constitution to allow him to run again for president and, having used his power to virtually wipe out all opposition, he essentially becomes president-for-life. As a result, his vice-president, Willy Knight, orders his assassination, however it fails. Featherston sends Knight to a prisoner camp in Louisiana.


Edited by Kacen, 29 November 2009 - 11:39 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2009 - 11:37 PM

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 12:27 AM

It carries on right through to an alternate Second World War where, having never been thumbed under the Treaty of Versailles, Germany (non-Nazi and remaining the German Empire) becomes Europe's great power and once more dicks France and Britain. Ends up with nukes being thrown around more readily. Seems pretty cool, though I figure he overestimated the power of the Confederacy's influence; I fail to see how any happenings in North America would've had any particular bearing on the Russian Revolution of 1917. If anything, it'd have sped it up, since the US would've more readily supported the Tsarist regime over the Bolsheviks, though I personally doubt it would've made any difference either way. I appreciate it's poetic license, but if he's allowed to speculate, so the hell am I! :p

Turtledove has quite a lot of alternate universes, some of them involving magic, others involving a twist of events at a specific time. There's one where the British monarchy goes all absolute, one where the Nazis beat us, where Britain kept control of America...basically, there's a lot of Britain in there. I look forward to getting started on his stuff, though I've got the rest of the Honorverse series, some Terry Goodkind books and a Stephen Lawhead trilogy to scythe through first. Turtledove or Lovecraft will come following that. :p

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 07:24 AM

Don't forget Jake Featherston and the black holocaust, where blacks are gassed in sealed trucks.

Why is Featherston so appealing?

Because he's believable.

And the reason the Russians were able to quell the red scum rebellion was more strategical changes little by little; I don't recall, but I believe Russia didn't extend itself as much into WWI as it did in real life, so it had more resources to beat the reds.

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 07:00 PM

Seems interesting indeed... History combined with fiction. I think I'll like this :p


There are such stuff.I,for example,work on a similar idea,but in which there is an alternate WW2.

Really,you just have to google for it :p

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 09:35 PM

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As of the beginning of Return Engagement, North America is a continent divided. Canada, minus the independent Republic of Quebec, is under U.S. occupation — which, as the Confederacy re-arms and the U.S. redeploys forces south to meet them, has come to mean occupation by U.S.-allied Québécois soldiers. To the south, Kentucky and northwestern Texas have recently been returned to the Confederacy by popular vote (Sequoyah — Oklahoma — having been flooded by US citizens, and its original Native American inhabitants having been disenfranchised, has voted to stay in the U.S.), but other formerly Confederate territories occupied by the U.S. after the Great War remain unredeemed. In total, Virginia north of Fredericksburg has been annexed to West Virginia, a sliver of northeastern Arkansas is attached to Missouri, and a U.S. salient into the state of Sonora (purchased by the Confederacy along with Chihuahua in 1881) is part of an outsized New Mexico that also contains our current state of Arizona. The U.S. also controls the formerly British island territories of the Sandwich Islands (including Hawaii), Bermuda and the Bahamas; Cuba, purchased by the Confederacy in the 1870s, remains Confederate.

On an international scale, Britain and France, both ruled by totalitarian movements, are allied with the Confederacy, as are Japan and Tsarist Russia (Russia remains Tsarist; as mentioned in the American Empire series, the "Hammer" and the "Man of Steel" are defeated by the Tsar's forces around Tsaritsyn, a.k.a. Stalingrad). The U.S. is allied with the German Empire, the Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire, while Quebec stays officially neutral but continues to supply occupation soldiers to the U.S. for now-exclusively-English Canada. Ireland, which saw independence from Britain at the end of the Great War with the help of the United States, has been invaded by British forces and there now exists a state of guerilla war.

On June 22, 1941, Confederate dictator Jake Featherston launches the war with a bombing attack on all major U.S. cities within reach of the border, quickly followed by an invasion of Ohio from Kentucky. At home, he continues his campaign of genocide on the Confederacy's black population. Under Socialist President Al Smith, the U.S. must quickly gear up and attempt to prevent the CSA salient from reaching Lake Erie and dividing the country, though some (risky) lake shipping and the Canadian rail network north of Lake Superior would remain available in that event. Both Confederate and U.S. scientists are aware of the potential for atomic weapons, though one side appears to have an operational edge. In the U.S., Smith must put down yet another Mormon rebellion in Utah, which is surreptitiously aided by the Confederacy just as the U.S. aids black radical socialist rebellions in the Confederacy.


http://turtledove.wi...ake_Featherston - The Confederate Hitler

http://turtledove.wi...i/Freedom_Party - The Confederate equivalent to the Nazi Party

http://turtledove.wi...ation_Reduction & http://turtledove.wi...p_Determination - The Black Holocaust

http://turtledove.wi...econd_Great_War (This is long read, I'll just quote the prologue)

After losing the Great War, many Entente nations came under the sway of revanchist, militarist governments such as the Confederate Freedom Party, the British Conservative/Silver Shirt coalition, the French Action Francaise monarchist party, the Russian Tsar Mikhail II, the Spanish Nationalists, the Mexican Hapsburg dynasty, and a newly expansionist Japanese Empire. These governments cooperated to subvert arms restrictions imposed by the Central Powers after its victory. Meanwhile the Central Powers weakened: In the United States, the era of Remembrance ended when the Socialist Party defeated the Democratic Party in five of the six Presidential elections between 1920 and 1940. In Germany, the relentless militarization which had marked the country since its unification under Wilhelm I in 1870 also weakened, as German bureacracy became more bloated and cumbersome and the German army found it difficult to administer occupied Belgium. The two major members of the alliance, Germany and the US, had several fallings-out, first when Germany blocked US-led international pressure on the Ottoman Empire to halt its genocide against the Armenians and later when the two countries backed opposing sides in a border dispute between Colombia and Venezuela. Several other members of the alliance withdrew, including Brazil, Quebec, and Italy, which had remained neutral in the Great War.

After quietly rearming, the Entente was able to embarrass the Central Powers militarily on the European and North American continents by defeating Central Powers-backed factions in the Spanish and Mexican Civil Wars. Later President Jake Featherston of the Confederate States met with President Al Smith of the United States and demanded plebiscites in the states of Kentucky, Houston, and Sequoyah to decide the question of whether those states should be returned to the Confederacy. Smith complied with Featherston's request under the Richmond Agreement, and two of the three states voted to return to the CS. Featherston contended fraud in Sequoyah and demanded that it be returned to the CS as well, along with territories in West Virginia, Missouri, and New Mexico that had also been signed over at the end of the Great War and even territories the CS had not claimed since the War of Secession. Smith refused these demands.

In June of 1941, Kaiser Wilhelm II died and the German throne passed to Wilhelm III. The European Entente members, sensing weakness, pressed the new Kaiser with ultimata similar to Featherston's, which he refused. They launched a series of coordinated attacks shortly after, which the CS supported by declaring war against Germany.

With these developments, Featherston restated his territorial demands as ultimata. Smith again refused, Featherston used this as a casus belli, and on June 22, 1941, he launched a surprise attack on US forces in Ohio as well as air raids all along the border without even the formality of a declaration of war.


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Posted 01 December 2009 - 12:47 AM

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Castro, Fidel

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Known by his first name only, Fidel Castro is a young leader of an anti-Freedom Party group in Confederate Cuba, working closely with the United States which sends him clandestine shipments of arms and ammunition.


Churchill, Winston

(AE:VO, SA:RE-SA:ID)

Winston Churchill, in this timeline as in the real one, was the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. He leads his nation into the Second Great War on what appears to be a platform of rearmament, restoration of the British Empire's former borders, and a military alliance with France and Russia aimed at reversing the German Reich's dominant position in the world.

Although he was a member of the Conservative Party, his government's actions were strongly influenced by Silver Shirt leader Oswald Mosley, who wielded much greater power and influence in the right-leaning revanchist Britain. In our timeline Mosley's British Union of Fascists were known as Blackshirts, though Turtledove may be referencing the American fascist group linked to Bruno Hauptmann and the Lindbergh Baby case. It is unknown how his half-American heritage has influenced his relationship with the USA or whether his mother was still Jennie Jerome, born in the Cobble Hill section of Brooklyn.

Churchill authorized the British superbomb attack on Hamburg, and retaliated to the German superbomb attacks on London, Norwich, and Brighton by sending a plane with a second superbomb to attack Germany. However, the plane was shot down over Belgium, all but ending Britain's chances to defeat Germany. Churchill was then ousted as Prime Minister in a no-confidence vote, and was succeeded by Horace Wilson, who sought a cease-fire with Germany.


Custer, George Armstrong

(HFR, GW:AF-AE:CCH)

In this timeline, George Custer was not killed fighting Indians in 1876, as this smaller United States appears to have attempted to salve its wounded national pride following the War of Secession by unleashing a much larger US Army upon the Native American tribes, thus compressing the conquest of the Great Plains into what appears to be a much shorter timescale. He served in Utah and Montana during the Second Mexican War (where he met Theodore Roosevelt). His forces helped defeat General Gordon's invasion of Montana (after the cease-fire, Canadians complained.) In the Great War, he was a lieutenant general in the United States Army and commanded the First Army forces in Tennessee. He was personally vain, using peroxide to bleach his grey hair and mustache despite his advanced age. As a Great War commander, he was unsuited for trench warfare, insisting on mounting large assaults on enemy lines instead of winning by attrition. However, his strategies were perfectly suited for "barrels," the timeline's term for tanks. Once they were introduced in force he crafted the "Barrel Roll Offensive," an armored breakthrough which ultimately won the Great War for the U.S.

Following the war, Custer was appointed to command the occupation forces in Canada, where he survived a few assassination attempts. Custer was forced into retirement following the election of Upton Sinclair as President. He was buried next to Theodore Roosevelt near Robert E. Lee's house in Arlington, Virginia. His extraordinarily lengthy career is roughly analogous to that of the German general Paul von Hindenburg in our timeline.


Einstein, Albert

(SA:DE)

Albert Einstein is a German physicist who was believed to have been working on an atomic bomb project in Europe. Along with several other leading German and Austro-Hungarian physicists, Einstein disappeared from public view in 1942. Not long afterwards, the United States, along with Germany and Austria-Hungary, were suspected of beginning atomic bomb programs. Since in this world Germany never became Nazi and there were no persecutions of Jews, he has no problem in contributing to the German war effort, especially as the war begins with Germany being attacked and invaded.


Hemingway, Ernest

(GW:WH, AE:CCH-AE:VO)

Known only as "Ernie," the novelist Ernest Hemingway was an ambulance driver in the U.S. Army on the Québec front in the Great War (in our timeline Hemingway drove an ambulance in Italy during World War I), Ernest was strafed by a British aircraft and severely wounded in the groin. After the war, his impotence served as a constant frustration. He ghost-wrote Sylvia Enos' book, I Sank Roger Kimball, and was involved in an affair with his client. He accidentally shoots her when attempting suicide while he is drunk. He then shoots himself in remorse. Unlike in our timeline, he never becomes a prominent author.


Hitler, Adolf

(AE:CCH)

Because of the German Empire's victory in this world, Adolf Hitler is a sergeant in the German Army. He holds the Iron Cross, First Class. Morrell met him once as an orderly to Colonel Heinz Guderian, who was on an inspection tour in Kamloops, British Columbia. Morrell thought that he was very much like Jake Featherston, but with a hatred for Jews and Slavs rather than Africans. However, nobody pays him much regard with his much lowlier position. The obvious implication is that because Germany won World War I, Hitler remained a nobody and never rose to power. It should be pointed out that Hitler is never mentioned by name in CCH, but the author has acknowledged his identity.


Lincoln, Abraham
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In this timeline, Abraham Lincoln was a one-term president who was defeated in the 1864 election, and who was generally remembered as "a failure". He was not assassinated and was still alive in the 1880s, working as a public speaker. Feeling that the Republican party was no longer true to its original roots, he led a faction of the party to break off and join the Socialist party with Marxist activist Friedrich Sorge, which eventually became the major opposition to the Democrats and one of the two main parties in the American political system.


Molotov, Vyacheslav ("The Hammer")

(AE:CCH)

Also known as "The Hammer", this is Vyacheslav Molotov from our world, another Red holdout (in the failed rebellion) in the Volga area, trying to defeat the Tsarist forces. By 1941, the Tsarist forces have all but defeated the Red Russians.


Mosley, Oswald

(AE:CCH-AE:VO, SA:ID)

Oswald Mosley is the leader of the Silver Shirts, a fascist movement analogous to the British Union of Fascists (Turtledove conflates two OTL movements: Mosley's historical BUF, also known as the Blackshirts, and; the Silver Shirts, an American fascist group linked to Bruno Hauptmann and the Lindbergh Baby case). Mosley and several members of the Union gain seats in the British parliament, creating an influential minority. In an attempt to stifle them, the Conservative Party formed a coalition with the Silver Shirts. However, this actually gave more power to the Silver Shirts. The fact that the Conservatives under the leadership of Winston Churchill had taken a revanchist just insured that the coalition left both parties indistinquishable. Churchill named Mosley Chancellor of the Exchequer to mollify the Silver Shirts. During the later conflict with Germany in 1941, Mosley was also given a position as Minister of War.

Shortly after Germany shot down a British plane carrying the second British superbomb in 1944, he was ousted as Chancellor of the Exchequer in a non-confidence vote.


Patton, George S.

(SA:RE-SA:ID)

General George S. Patton, C.S. Army, was in charge of the Confederate armored forces (Army of Kentucky) in Operation Blackbeard in Ohio and the attack on Pittsburgh. He had many of the same character traits as our timeline's Patton, including attention to the appearance of his men and the effective use of armor. Instead of being the first American general to integrate his combat formations, this Patton is an unabashed racist and supporter of the Freedom Party. Patton was evacuated from the pocket at Pittsburgh before it fell in February 1943. He unsuccessfully tried to hold the U.S. Army out of Kentucky and Tennessee.

This included an incident where he slapped a soldier suffering from battle fatigue. He would have shot the soldier save that other soldiers around them threatened to shoot Patton on the spot. He was reprimanded for this incident by President Featherston, who promised the average soldier a fair shake.

Patton's aggressiveness was checked by General Morrell. When he switched tactics to fight a delaying action in Chattanooga, he was bypassed by a U.S. airborne assault on the hills overlooking the city. Because of this, the U.S. drove to Atlanta, disgracing him in Jake Featherston's eyes.

By 1944, Patton was forced to flee Atlanta and head into Alabama. With the U.S. ravaging his army, Patton was eventually forced to surrender in Birmingham. After giving a farewell address to his forces, Patton was taken into captivity.


Reagan, Ronald

(AE:VO)

Ronald Reagan, "Dutch", like this timeline's counterpart, was a sports announcer in Iowa between the wars. His favorite phrase in games is, "There he goes again."


Roosevelt, Franklin D.

(AE:CCH, SA:RE-SA:ID)

Franklin D. Roosevelt, in this timeline, was Secretary of War in the Hoover administration and later Assistant Secretary of War under the Smith and LaFollette Administrations. He is not much in the public eye, but plays a key role at being in charge of the United States nuclear program at the Hanford site. Roosevelt was paraplegic and uses a wheelchair. He develops a kind of platonic affair with Flora Blackford. There is no mention of his being married in this timeline to Eleanor Roosevelt, who as wife of an obscure Assistant Secretary would have far less scope for her own activities than she did as First Lady in our timeline. It noted that his son (who goes unnamed) is in the US Navy during the Second Great War.

Shortly before the end of the war Flora Blackford notices with concern that Roosevelt is "killing himself with overwork and smoking". After the fall of the Confederacy Roosevelt is not mentioned again, and the disposal of the Confederate nuclear program is left to General Abell rather than to him.


Roosevelt, Theodore

(HFR-AE:CCH)

Teddy Roosevelt became a national figure for leading a volunteer cavalry unit, the Unauthorized Regiment, in the Second Mexican War, during which he developed an intense rivalry with George Custer. A member of the Democratic Party, he was President of the United States from 1913 to 1921. Roosevelt was the first president to run for a third term, but he was ultimately defeated by Socialist Upton Sinclair. After his death in 1924, he was buried at Robert E. Lee's house in Arlington, West Virginia (which was annexed from Virginia after the Great War).


Sennacherib ("Satchmo")

(AE:VO, SA:RE-SA:G)

Known in our world as Louis Armstrong, in the Confederate States during the rise of the Freedom Party and the Featherston Administration, Sennacherib (a.k.a. Satchmo), was the leader of the popular band "Satchmo and the Rhythm Aces". He was forced by the Confederate government during Second Great War to play for Confederate troops in Ohio. Satchmo and his band were able to escape to U.S. lines at night after one of their shows. In Drive to the East, Satchmo and his band share the horrors of the Featherston government's treatment of African-Americans with Flora Blackford. Subsequently, Satchmo and the Rhythm Aces produce propaganda for the U.S., although their style of music, unknown outside of the C.S., is a bit of a mystery to the average U.S. citizen


Stalin, Joseph

(AE:CCH)

Joseph Stalin is nicknamed "The Man of Steel" in this world. The Red Revolution following the Great War failed and Stalin became a holdout in the Volga area near the city Tsaritsyn along with the "Hammer" (Vyacheslav Molotov), deliberately ironic as in our timeline the city was known at the time as Stalingrad.



Wilhelm II

(GW:AF-AE:VO)

Kaiser Wilhelm II was the German Emperor and one of the main allies of the United States in World War I. "Kaiser Bill" was a popular character in the U.S. Many men wore a "Kaiser Bill" mustache in imitation of him. He lived until 1941, (as he did in this timeline) where his death and his son's coming to the throne and refusal to give France its lost territory back started Second Great War. He was the father of Kaiser Friedrich Wilhelm V.


The real historical characters in this alternate timeline are even more fascinating than the fictional ones...

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 08:10 PM

Yeah, this timeline is awesome :shiftee2: though I'm a little more biased than most readers :p

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:11 PM

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Statue of Remembrance, gift from the Germans after loosing the second Mexican War.

U.S.A. in World War I




Confederates in World War I

Would have been better if you 'd had use some of my vehicle designs too. Also maybe adding my name as well.




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