eRe4s3r's Models

Yeah i was bored, with the gondor walls, and overall bored so i did that...
oh yeah... the gate section is still unfinished






a single wall has 506 polygons .) btw the Battle Tower has 2000
and the stair section has 970 polygons

Textures are NOT from me, only modified by me

Nice work, look really good.

looks cool
whats the model for the walls ? too lazy to INI check right now

whats the model for the walls ? too lazy to INI check right now

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its gbcastwall.w3d for the walls
gbcastelev.w3d for the walls with the stairs
gbcastgater.w3d and gbcastgatel.w3d for right and left side of the gates...
and there is that ugly.. gbcastbrdg.w3d for the bridge that spans above the doors
and gbcastgate.w3d for the.. (very big) gate

btw.. im really lost with the *Bridge* and *gate* section... no idea how to model that .. i guess im gonna totally delete these ugly doors and make a fallgate or something... that is.. if i figure out how/where the doors are animated

was thinking about a gatehouse.. though i dont think it will be walkable...

Edited by eRe4s3r, 11 May 2005 - 02:54 PM.

Nice work! A wall with ramparts, so cool

Your models look really nice, they are more middle age than middle earth, and that would please more than one.

For the gate, the idea of a fall gate is good.

Sorry i don't know the words for those, but you could try a "herse"(in french, a gate that opens vertically) or a "pont levis"(a gate that opens from vertical position to horizontal position).

The problem with a "herse" is that you have to do a tall wall if you want the gate to hide in it when opened.

Your models look really nice, they are more middle age than middle earth, and that would please more than one.

For the gate, the idea of a fall gate is good.

Sorry i don't know the words for those, but you could try a "herse"(in french, a gate that opens vertically) or a "pont levis"(a gate that opens from vertical position to horizontal position).

The problem with a "herse" is that you have to do a tall wall if you want the gate to hide in it when opened.

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je ne vois pas ce qu'une herse apporterait réellement mis à part un joli design simpa, ce qui est de toute façon l'objectif alors en fait c'est bien
mais l'idée du pont-levis serait génial pour les forces du mal

(translation : i dont see what a "herse" would really bring to gameplay apart from cool design, which is the aim of it anyway lol
a pont-levis however would just rock and should be accessible to the FoD, so as to compensate their lack of walls )

Ok i guess i'll do only the english version myself, unless we can officially write in french in here

I thought about adding water around the castle with the "pont levis", this might be of some beauty but more and again in chivalry style.

Hope it helps making up your mind.

water... thats a great idea, dunno exatly what a herse is but i suppose its the kind of a fallgate .) so it would match perfectly... only problem would be to make that walkable...

the real problem is getting it all alligned.. since i seem to be unable to let my new models display in the worldbuilder (and yeah i did make the _w models ^^) so if anybody has an idea how to fix that .) i would be very gratefull

just want to say, this forum and its tutorial are the best out there, i couldnt have made any change i wanted without the bse tutorial .)

oh i just came to the idea.. why not make 2 doors... a fallgate, and a fallbridge .. mhh gonna test that

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Just managed to get some *kind* of gatehouse working... its a really pain getting it alligned with the rest of the walls, its walkable.. but its still WIP

Again if someone knows how to get my models to show up in worldbuilder please gimme a hint

Oh my, was bored again.. so i finished my alternate gondor wall design




Pic of the door/fallgate together with the doorhouse (to fit things in)

Edited by eRe4s3r, 12 May 2005 - 05:06 PM.

Wow looks amazing! its a completely different style. definatly a more middle ages style then middle earth. i congratulate u cause it looks so cool

hehe, actually the original idea was to make a very dark mood castle design, i somehow failed that, dunno why but in lotr bfme everything looks friendly *sigh* (even the orks :/ )

Oh yeah, the whole thing is part of a personal mod project for myself .) mixing morrowind story/world with lotr bfme engine .) and that mixed with a very good fantasy saga i read some time ago (no not tolkien ^^)

If someone is bored and wants to make a texture for the walls (since the current wall texture is not mine nor do i hold the copyright to it..) feel free to do so

hehe, actually the original idea was to make a very dark mood castle design, i somehow failed that, dunno why but in lotr bfme everything looks friendly *sigh* (even the orks :/ )

Oh yeah, the whole thing is part of a personal mod project for myself .) mixing morrowind story/world with lotr bfme engine .) and that mixed with a very good fantasy saga i read some time ago (no not tolkien ^^)

If someone is bored and wants to make a texture for the walls (since the current wall texture is not mine nor do i hold the copyright to it..) feel free to do so

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good luck with your project, i will see if i have time to do a quick skin for these walls and doors, just send me a PM with what you want it to look like

Beautiful!

By the way, is the fallgate able to open ? If so, great!

Can units go on the fallgate wall ?

One last thing, the towers of the fallgate lack of something to me, like wedges (dunno if it is the right word for it) like on the walls, or a roof like the other towers and then some sort of narrow window.

Oh and a last thing again, what do you plan to do with the door? It looks like a bit strange opening in 2 parts like that, you could maybe replace it with one only door, a vertical to horizontal opening door or let the fallgate alone, what do you think?

Beautiful!

By the way, is the fallgate able to open ? If so, great!

Can units go on the fallgate wall ?

One last thing, the towers of the fallgate lack of something to me, like wedges (dunno if it is the right word for it) like on the walls, or a roof like the other towers and then some sort of narrow window.

Oh and a last thing again, what do you plan to do with the door? It looks like a bit strange opening in 2 parts like that, you could maybe replace it with one only door, a vertical to horizontal opening door or let the fallgate alone, what do you think?

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w00t so many questions .)

Well, actually i cheated, if i were NOT lazy i would have created a second gate object and placed it over the first with different *switches* but as its now its opening together with the doors (which actually are planned to be a fallbridge but several problems stop me from doing that ^^)

Yes, the wall is walkable, its actually not that hard to do it, only doesnt look *that* good ^^ (since archers wont line up on the gatehouse wall) that said i wonder how they do it on the other walls... well anyway

Yeah, the both towers are wip ones, im still tempted to do something about them windows and stuff, what u cant see here .) u still can build battle towers in the gap between the wall towers and the gatetowers (im not happy how they look though...) they are much to large, but somehwere ye have to make a compromise with walkable/defendable and how it looks .)

Yeah back to the door again, 2 problems stop me from actually doing a *drawbridge*

1) I dont see my models in the worldbuilder nor cant i change the range of the ground that gets renderd and the one that does not, aka i would like to create a kind of water ring around the fortress (to make a fallgate practicable, but that would prevent siege towers from docking ) Maybe ill do a drawbridge just for the fun of it .P without water

2) Actually, the gondor_buildings.ini is *extremly* wierd to me, so i failed to create a *duplicated* model/object ^^

Oh yeah, letting the fallgate alone, would be workable 2 but then ... which proper medieval fantasy fortress just had a fallgate

wee so much typing .) /me is all dizzy

First of all... YEAH GO MORROWIND! haha...
Second, isn't porticullis another name for fallgate??? If so then when u add a name for it and stuff, use porticullis. It sounds more... professional

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First of all...  YEAH GO MORROWIND!   haha... 
Second,  isn't porticullis another name for fallgate???  If so then when u add a name for it and stuff, use porticullis.  It sounds more... professional

-Your the best, OrcishHorde   (lol)

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yeah that may be only problem would that about 75% of all ppl wouldnt know what that is, they would see the button "Close porticullis" and think, yay when did i started a french porn movie...

hehe ah well

lol funny ... I also had an idea, maybe the moat can be an upgrade to solve ur sige tower problem and it would allow a race against time sorta thing if mordor's strategy was with siege towers

First of all...  YEAH GO MORROWIND!   haha... 
Second,  isn't porticullis another name for fallgate???  If so then when u add a name for it and stuff, use porticullis.  It sounds more... professional

-Your the best, OrcishHorde   (lol)

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yeah that may be only problem would that about 75% of all ppl wouldnt know what that is, they would see the button "Close porticullis" and think, yay when did i started a french porn movie...

hehe ah well

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lol, i d love to have such a script opening in the Palantir when closing doors

haha .) is that a call for nice and shiny woman in lotr bfme? ^^
ah well, placing some cheerleaders on the walls could help brighten up the mood

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yeah but i didnt want to make the moat a model file .) i would like to create it in worldbuilder (if thats even possible) since that would solve several problems at all

mainly the one that i dont wanna create *new* buildings ^^ (actually im to lazy, but im allways good with excuses )

Edited by eRe4s3r, 12 May 2005 - 09:15 PM.

haha .) is that a call for nice and shiny woman in lotr bfme? ^^
ah well, placing some cheerleaders on the walls could help brighten up the mood

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yeah but i didnt want to make the moat a model file .) i would like to create it in worldbuilder (if thats even possible) since that would solve several problems at all

mainly the one that i dont wanna create *new* buildings ^^ (actually im to lazy, but im allways good with excuses )

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i just coulndt help but imagine orc cheerleaders for Mordor
but then i remembered they had no walls so that will be for Rohan and Gondor, whose cheerleader must look better