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[Nazgûl]

Started working on the helmet... Basic shape.

I hate hard surface modeling, but what can you do 

 

Edited by Nazgûl, 14 December 2019 - 04:28 PM.

[Dark Lord]

excellent job that I love

 

It would be great to develop Thrain II son of Thor and the same Thrór your designs are excellent

Edited by Dark Lord, 23 May 2015 - 04:12 PM.

[Nazgûl]

Thanks, glad you like it. Love your maps 

No plans for other dwarves than Thorin's Company, Dain and Gimli though.

 

Some progress...

I'm going for the regular Iron Hill soldier helmet as a base, in case we need it. Then I'll add Dain's blingbling on top of that.

 

Wish I had reference pics of the back side though...

 

Edited by Nazgûl, 14 December 2019 - 04:28 PM.

[Nazgûl]

Some testing, for size and shape...

 

Do you guys know if the helmet should be perfectly round (from above), or slightly oval in shape? In some of the very few pics available I think it looks like it slightly less wide than it is from forehead to back... Anyone got a Weta picture book or such?

 

Edited by Nazgûl, 14 December 2019 - 04:29 PM.

[ELB27]

Concerning the shape of the helmet from above, I think this picture might help; with a bit of imagination it will look like an ellipse from above - with its major axis along the line between forehead and back of head.

 

EDIT: The back of his helmet is a challenge to find. Best I could come up with is this lego guy.

 

Hope it helps!

Edited by ELB27, 23 May 2015 - 07:40 PM.

[Nazgûl]

Haha the Lego-pic... how cute 

 

The other one is a fan made thingy. Quite good but that that accurate. I'm looking for Weta images or in movie shots.

Anyways, in this green screen pic the helmet looks slightly longer than wider, but in the Weta concept art it mostly looks perfectly round (for Dain).

 

[Lauri]

I took some snapshots of the helmet, including the backside. I included them in this .rar file

 Dain_Pics.rar   6.43MB   222 downloads

 

It certainly looks more oval than circular, so I would go for that. Concept art is, after all, concept art.

[Nazgûl]

GREAT Lauri! Thanks. That's just what I need for Dain.

Could you do the same with the regular soldiers? That would be perfect 

 

I agree about the concepts... One can quickly see that the scalemail draping around the bottom edge of the helmet, is not in the movie for instance.

Edited by Nazgûl, 23 May 2015 - 10:08 PM.

[Nazgûl]

Funny...

 

I hate sculpting hard surfaces cause zBrush isn't really optimized for that. Sculpting soft and organic stuff is only limited by the artist talent. But hard surfaces are definitely limited by the knowledge of the client, and I just don't really have what it takes to make complex machines etc in zBrush. So I have to cheat and work around, to get flat surfaces with sharp edges like this.... But while being hard to sculpt, it's super easy and super fast to topologize hard surfaces like this. A quite nice paradox I'll say.... For soft material, it's the other way around. Easier to sculpt and tedious to topologize

 

This topology session only took about 15 mins. Basic helmet shape done, and now in (fairly) low poly, 450 polys. Raw model was 1,4 million...

 

Edited by Nazgûl, 14 December 2019 - 04:30 PM.

[Nazgûl]

...and some paint! 

 

Edited by Nazgûl, 14 December 2019 - 04:31 PM.

[njm1983]

looking good.

[Lauri]

Got a couple of shots, but there weren't many good.

 Pictures.rar   687.51KB   189 downloads

[Nazgûl]

No worries, I think I got it pretty close using google. Thanks though.

The orc image will be good when I make a couple of extra helmets for them =)

[Lauri]

Yeah, I was going to crop them out, but realized that the orc part looked way better than the dwarven part, so I kept the full size

[Nazgûl]

Good call 

[Nazgûl]

Crest added...

 

Edited by Nazgûl, 14 December 2019 - 04:31 PM.

[Ridder Geel]

Cool, looking good so far

[King Dain II Ironfoot]

You just left me speachless with those cool designs and details its awesom,but that doesnt even cover it its nothing MORE THAN EPIC!!!!!I loiked them so much I cant wait to play with it keep the awesome work

Edited by King Dain II Ironfoot, 06 June 2015 - 08:33 AM.

[Nazgûl]

Thank you =)

[Nazgûl]

Having huge demoralizing problems with this friggin model... Have redone the UV 3 times now and even adjusted the topology heavily, reduced poly count etc... but no matter what I do, I can't seem to solve the problem of flipped UV mapping when I project the texture from the high poly mesh to the low poly mesh which makes the helmet look like a road kill.

 

Edited by Nazgûl, 14 December 2019 - 04:32 PM.