@Green_ZERO:
Claiming that I do not want to be unbanned is not fooling anyone, when Revora approach the community to make comments like this you can feel the cringe a mile away.
You've literally told us this.
What possible motivation could I have to want to remain banned?
Got to have something to rail against, your fans love you for it.
Stating that I will continue to break server rules once unabnned? Why? What for?
Again, you've literally told us this.
Advising that Green_ZERO is the aggressor is one of dumbest points I have seen so far, yeah because I totally banned myself, that's basically what the admins are saying.
We're saying that you are breaking the rules, got banned for it, then decided to slander us and break more and more and more and more to show us your goodwill. That's what we're 'advising', that's why you're the aggressor.
Make no mistake that the reason for the ban stems from a grudge that ToxicShock has against me that he had been carrying since GameSpy
Nope, the ban stems from us being aware of your history of frustrating events held by Gamereplays/ToxicShock, which is why, before you were banned, you were very temporarily suspended from our server to prevent you from frustrating the first event we held on it, as it was hosted by those people. You chose to break that suspension, and that is why you are banned. You know that as well as we do, so stop lying.
If Revora really cares about the community (which is in serious question here), then they will unban me and allow me to legitimately return to the community instead of having me take it by force.
We care about the community - just not about you. You had several chances, you decided to insult us and more importantly continue to break the rule you were banned for thousands of times.
Attacking me grants me all the justification I need to defend myself
We don't attack you, we just don't make exceptions for people with giant ego's when applying the rules that go for everyone else.
I know that you guys know that I could cause irreparable damage to your systems, but I don't.
I really don't think you could.
This problem has been created by ToxicShock and forced onto Revora, now you fight a war which has already been lost.
We're not 'fighting a war', get off your podium. We're applying rules to keep unwanted people off of our server. That's you. The only person that's forced anything on us was you, by slandering us and spamming us with your accounts. All you had to do was sit through a single short suspension, based on evidence of you ruining similar events (ie. events held by Gamereplays) and show us you weren't the nuisance you were claimed to be. You've failed spectacularly to prove us wrong by circumventing that suspension and ruining the event. After that, no honest approaches were made by you to discuss this thing like adults - just flaming and slandering, and you've shown no willingness to respect our work and authority over it - it's been just more and more account spam, and again in your post here, you glorify wasting our time, threaten us some more, and portray yourself as some sort of antihero when all you are to us is a guy that attacks our service and makes a brand out of it.
The problem, from the start, was that you thought we would never dare touch you for breaking our rules, and you've been throwing temper tantrums ever since it turned out that you were wrong.
@cgf123:
We've tried to reach out to him just last month, and were rejected, laughed at, and assured that he'd continue to fuck with us no matter what we did. Sorry, but Green_ZERO has done nothing at all that would allow us to remotely consider a 'redemption', including his boastful post in this topic.
He's very respectful and appreciative of what other players offer to enrich the community
Except to the people that enable the community to continue playing in the game's native server environment - he's never been particularly appreciative or respectful there.
We take heed of your opinions, and we appreciate content creators - Revora is still a modding community at its core and we've hosted big CnC modding projects for over a decade. But when it comes to applying penalties on our server, we look at the facts: circumventing suspensions is not allowed - if we make an exception for Green_ZERO, we have no leg to stand on to moderate our server environment in the future. Multiple accounts are not allowed, because it makes it harder for us to keep track of what happens where. See, the rules exist for a reason. The penalty for these offenses is temporary suspension, because that's all you can really do in an online environment, and when someone continues to break the rules, the only thing you can do is extend that suspension, eventually into permanence. If you don't, you're condoning their behavior. This was never as personal as Green_ZERO likes to portray it as: we've literally only applied the same sensible rules that go for anyone else.
I'll try to again explain just where we're coming from here.
Anyone on this server can break the rules enough times to get permanently banned. Green_ZERO is no exception, and we refuse to make him an exception based on the fact that a group of players thinks he's a good guy. Opinions don't change facts, and if we were to go down that road, we'd only be able to impose penalties on players that didn't have a lot friends to back them up. Things simply cannot work that way, because that would be an inherently unfair system. We don't give people a say in who gets banned and who doesn't, because it's not a matter of opinion, not even for an admin. A fair system treats everyone equally, regardless of their background or their connections. When it comes to moderation, we look at facts, nothing more.
Look, I do understand where you're coming from - you think Green_ZERO is an asset that we shouldn't keep down, because he makes videos and entertains people. I get that just fine. However, you're not seeing things from our end. It's not a matter of saving face, it's a matter of coherency. We've established that the rules we have make sense: C&C:Online, like any online platform, requires a degree of moderation, and rules exist to make this possible - to give us a leg to stand on, so to speak. If we make an exception for guy that's broken our rules so many times the ban should really read '17 lifetimes, just to be sure', and do this only because he's a popular guy, we're sending the message that it's okay to relentlessly break the rules and treat us like dirt, so long as you've got a Youtube channel that gets some views. We simply cannot do that. Popularity doesn't give you the right to break rules that we need to uphold in order to have some degree of control over what happens in our online environment. To that end, Green_ZERO's approach in trying to get his ban lifted has been completely counterproductive: no remorse, no sign of improvement (things have only gotten worse, as he's proudly stated), no respectful communication towards us whatsoever, despite us attempting a respectful dialogue as recently as last month, and, of course, a whole bunch of threats in his last post. If we both agree that having a certain set of rules is a necessary thing for a service like this, and we agree that a fair system is important, then the next logical step is agreeing that Green_ZERO, despite his popularity, should be banned. I understand that you consider it a loss - in a way, so do I - but any other outcome at this point is favoritism and justice through emotion rather than objectivity.
Still, an apology and a marked change in behavior and attitude towards us wouldn't be an unwelcome sight to any admin here. Maybe stop breaking the rules while he's at it - and stop getting others to break them for him.
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