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[Nazgûl]

Before I post the first images of my model in progress... I wanna ask - what the heck is going on at the Battle of the Five Armies, with the trolls and their size? 

 

Early in the battle we see them as gigantic creatures with a size that could match a mûmakil...

 

It's particularly evident here, where the troll just passes by a group of orcs, and you can clearly see that the orcs just about reaches his knee in height...

 

 

But then...? Late in the battle, the trolls have suddenly reduced in size to what looks to be about half, if even that? What the heck? 

 

I just don't get it...

 

Anyway, I'm going for that gigantic version that is seen in all scenes except the final one above   
It will feature the helmet, gauntlets and the club - all as upgrades in game.

Edited by Nazgûl, 17 August 2018 - 12:47 PM.

[Nazgûl]

Made this model along with the "stumpy" troll during my long absence... Still needs paint though 

This troll should fit the regular cave troll anims.

 

 

 

Edited by Nazgûl, 17 August 2018 - 11:16 PM.

[Nazgûl]

Kids... don't get kids. It will eat up all your energy and time for modding

 

Not that anyone still cares, but I'll just leave this here...

 

 

Edited by Nazgûl, 14 September 2019 - 11:35 PM.

[NewErr]

Uuuu nice.

[Nazgûl]

Thanks, here's the entire model...

Now I just need to find time to retopologize and UV map it  After that, with any luck, perhaps someone could rig it...

 

[RingsofFire]

Hey man this is one cool mod. I'm surprised that more people have not jumped on it yet as it is scarily accurate to the films. As far as these Olog hai go, this model is outstanding and by far the closest/most accurate version I've seen to date. 

 

When it comes to them in general, the small and large trolls are different for sure,  but one is simply a smaller variant/version of the larger ones. The smaller ones only appear as shock troops at the Erebor gates, whereas the bigger trolls appear throughout the whole battle right up when the bats of Gundabad arrive.  So I'm glad you decided to go with them.

 

As far as the game itself goes and your eventual release of the mod, do you plan on making these Trolls as large as the appear in film? I've seen quite a few modders skimp out on that and simply rig them to the smaller troll models in game, and it looks a bit awkward. Also I'm glad you included the blades considering they were the primary weapons of these trolls.

 

I know that in the film they use steel maces, but there aren't many clear references to create a model from, so the wooden clubs are a good stand in as well.

 

I'd hate to see all this work go to waste, I certainly hope there is a team assisting you with all this work.  Unless you haven't already ModDB has a lot of people interested in middle earth mods, its a good place to check for showing off your stuff and assistance if required.

 

Awesome job, keep up the good work!

[njm1983]

Wow you're alive! Lol yes having children is time consuming but worth it.

Troll looks good.

[Nazgûl]

RingsOfFire, thanks man. Not sure what you mean with maces? I can only see the shields and the clubs in the movie?

NJM, hey buddy. Yeah I love my son, but I also miss modding. Would be cool to see this troll in game soon.

[RingsofFire]

Admittedly, its a small detail. But I noticed that in the background, many of the larger trolls were using what appear to be steel spike studded maces in conjunction with the wooden clubs and arm blades/shields. Here are the few blurry references I could muster for them.

 

 

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Also, the Troll that faces Gandalf in Dale happens to use a mace. Granted, the troll himself is pretty unique in appearance, and probably not as large as the armored trolls, but he uses the exact same weapon as the trolls in the above images.

 

 

 

To my knowledge, Azog's orcs also use a mace that's probably a sized down version of the weapon that the Trolls use.

 

Of course in the end, both clubs and maces fit the same role as a blunt weapon to smash things with, but I just thought it would be neat to provide some references.

 

[Nazgûl]

Wow, can't believe I missed that... 

 

Excellent screen shots, thanks.

 

I will make the mace as well 

[Hugh Janus]

Great to see you back online, Nazgul! Been following SEE for nearly 10 years now!

[Nazgûl]

Me too 

[Nazgûl]

And there it is... 

 

 

Edited by Nazgûl, 28 September 2019 - 11:20 PM.

[RingsofFire]

Wow, I am beyond impressed. You certainly do work quickly.

 

On a side note, you don't know how long I have waited for someone to make accurate representations of Azog's army (most notably the Olog-hai) in a mod. Obviously various middle earth themed games have popped up over the years like the Battle for Middle Earth series and the Third age Total war mod, (A middle earth themed mod for the Total war series) but I have yet to see any of them put this much accurate detail into their work.

 

Honestly your models would make perfect references for anyone attempting to make something similar in their own mod.

[Nazgûl]

Well thank you    Glad you like it.

[RingsofFire]

Would you mind if I used these pics as references?

[Nazgûl]

Sorry, I missed this one. No, go ahead.