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[that?]

I had always thougth about what happend to humanity after ww1, ra1 war, ra2, now's ra3 war, 1st tiberian war, second tiberian war and posibly twiligth?
after so much wars would humanity exist at all? or even after ra3 war, what would happend to humanity?

Edited by that?, 08 December 2004 - 06:23 PM.

[Hostile]

I  had always thougth about what happend to humanity after ww1, ra1 war, ra2, now's ra3 war, 1st tiberian war, second tiberian war and posibly twiligth?
after so much wars would humanity exist at all? or even after ra3 war, what would happend to humanity?

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RA4

[duke_Qa]

remember that apparently, the RA universe and the Tiberian universe arent related... and for humanity in red alert, exept for the fact that hitler was killed, it is quite a habitable universe(exept when soviet is on the offense[which happen ALOT], the fallout usually turn people into green goo.)

tiberian sun is FUBAR, nothing more to say about that really. tiberium all over the place exept far up in the north ie. norway,sweden, finland and the north pole(afaik, if theyre sheltering in my country again, i want paid for it. its not like we have room for the entire world population up here(well technically we do, but there would be like 3 persons per square meter, and thats the entire country, we had to have like 9 in the northern parts where it would be cold enough...). money is good, failing that, processed tiberium will do fine ).

[that?]

I had seen somewhere that ra and tiberian stories are related, look in tomas's schakelzy nod symbol- it became to be scavengers before it became a nod symbol, developed from the falen soviet empire.

I thougth of an unswer wich looks pretty good and maybe remainding yours.
the world in RA has advanced faster wich means- the poulation grew faster, so even in the soviet war of RA1 if 3/4 of europe population has been killed then still must be more than 1/4 of european population than in reality.
this is why i think in RA2 soviets atacked u.s.a.
but it doesnt unswers what hapend to the population after ts or how it happend. since it isnt logical to see huge armies when world population cant efort their numbers. i just dont understand it?:~

[duke_Qa]

I had seen somewhere that ra and tiberian stories are related, look in tomas's schakelzy nod symbol- it became to be scavengers before it became a nod symbol, developed from the falen soviet empire.

I thougth of an unswer wich looks pretty good and maybe remainding yours.
the world in RA has advanced faster wich means- the poulation grew faster, so even in the soviet war of RA1 if 3/4 of europe population has been killed then still must be more than 1/4 of european population than in reality.
this is why i think in RA2 soviets atacked u.s.a.
but it doesnt unswers what hapend to the population after ts or how it happend. since it isnt logical to see huge armies when world population cant efort their numbers. i just dont understand it?:~

well the only place i can see a connection is in the first RA game, where you had kaine as a helper for the russians. at the end he killed them all[read; stalin and other helpers] and took control. but its so long since i saw that movie that i can't remember what he said.

if anyone could be so kind, i would love to see a link to it or something else. it would be interesting to read somewhere about the probablity that these universes could connect.

[that?]

No problem man, i can show u it just count on me ok

those pics are taken from a planned rengade 2 by ww before they were fired:
the kirov airship:

the nod sig proving i was rigth:


and the adres they were taken from to show i am not blofing:
http://www.tasmediaf...de2_Project.htm

[duke_Qa]

hmm, looks good. but still, i can't imagine the soviet turning into nod. that wouldnt make sence since nod was a terrorist organization, and not an entire country.

but still, renegade 2 was supposed to be around the time of the first RA game, so that scavenger thing could have been some sort of revolt right after the first war, which they experimented with more complex weaponry(the kirov wasnt exactly around in the armies before around the 70s, which is the time that RA2 timeline is in).

just look at the original renegade. the mission there was to stop the brotherhood from making cyborgs too early, the plan could have been something like that in renegade 2 aswell.




im making a sort of theory here. after the 1st RA, there was a fraction of the soviet who got away, and started the scavengers. as we know, "Kane" was one of stalins helpers, and for all we know, he could have run away with a portion of the army before the allies got there. the story in renegade 2 would most likely be about how tanya went after the surviving soviet troops now known as the scavengers. she finds all these strange new weapons that would have given the soviets an edge, but manages to kill off the "leader" which, naturally wasnt "kane".

after this, yuri took control of the soviet, and sent them out to attack usa. "kane" is staying low, because he most likely isnt just an ordinary guy, and knows things are going to hell. after soviet and yuri is finally defeated, we are getting close to the 80s and 90s, which was the time that the brotherhood of nod started getting bigger. then the little meteorite with tiberium falls from the heavens, and woops! we're back to basics.

the problem here is that RA3 isnt in the picture. either, some sort of soviet attack happens again, and the allies and others wins again, but the brotherhood might be in the shadows, pulling strings...

Edited by duke_Qa, 09 December 2004 - 08:33 PM.

[Draco]

I was thinking about how the 2 universes are split, as far as I can tell they split just after red alert. If you pay attention to all the cutscenes you will hear that there are plans to create a 'global defence initiative'. then you see cain take control of the soviets at the end of thier campaign. so I think this is where it split.

>in universe 1 tiberium falls to earth, cain discovers it and uses it to build the NOD, then begins his operations, GDI fight to control it when they find the terrorists using it, tiberium destroys the world etc.

>in universe 2 tiberium missed earth, NOD didn't build it's power base because they lacked the tiberium to develope, because there was no NOD the GDI would of had less to do and may of become a bunch of pussies like the UN. this made it possible for the allied and soviet conflict to continue.

by the way, how come in the second game they seem to say that the americans did everthing in the first red alert, I thought it was the europeans that did the work?

anyway that's my therory on how the 2 universes are related. good work you bastards, now I want to play C&C again(the original) and I have XP so I can't!

[Nyerguds]

RA1 is the prequel to C&C1. RA2 is an alternate sequel to RA1. That's all. There is no relation whatsoever between C&C1/TS/FS and RA2/YR/RA3

[Allied General]

chuck carter - "The idea for the origin of the Hand of Nod came from the old Soviet empire and all the torn down statues - what if the hammer had broken off on each end, leaving a section in the hand? I thought - this might be cool so I just put it in and left it."

[the_kid]

we had a topic about this earlier... I'll have to dig it up, but from my understanding RA1 and TD and TS are all related... after that all the stories are screwed over. RA2 and YR were all messed up and could have fit after ra1 and before td... but that would have been pushing it.

[duke_Qa]

as far as im concerned, YR would practically never been heard of by the general public because the allies went back in time to stop him, after all, when he came with the news that he was gonna dominate the world, the allies had already stopped his dominator weapons. he would be remembered as a bad tv-stunt if not less.

[that?]

as far as im concerned, YR would practically never been heard of by the general public because the allies went back in time to stop him, after all, when he came with the news that he was gonna dominate the world, the allies had already stopped his dominator weapons. he would be remembered as a bad tv-stunt if not less.

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I would bet that if not yuri himself be in RA3 then utleast his army.
when red alert 3 will came out it will be clear.

[the_kid]

I'm not sure what they are going to do... its likely to be allies and soviets, I hope they don't add a terrorist group though, because then it would be just like generals. China - communist power seeking to take over world. USA - general good guys try and save. GLA - terrorists who are determined to kill everyone who opposes them. just substitute the USSR for China and you have RA3... that is why I think EA choose to make another game in the RA universe, because it would be a much simpler conversion than to make TT.

[the_kid]

yeah, and supposably RA2 is suppose to have slipped in between ra1 and td.

[the_kid]

and RA3 would follow the RA2 universe... think about it, you could make an easy one madman trying to tke over the usa game... or you could really study up on the Tiberian Series, and write a story to go with TD and TS... EALA took the easy way out (bastards!).

[Hostile]

How do we even know when we don't know the game yet? You people jump to some strange conclusions. Is there even enuff info about it to form an opinion?