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[GothmogtheOrc]

Ok, so this has been in my mind for quite some time and as I was playing a game as Gondor earlier today I decided it was time to get it done.

Alrighty, here are the basics:

Gondor:
-New Aragorn (Faramir's model with a custom skin I made/ am making)
-Boromir
-Faramir
-Legolas
-Gimli
-Pippin

-Weaker Cavalry
-Stronger Archers
-Stronger Infantry

-Replace "Army of the Dead" summons with a "Summon Gandalf the White" (Now only Aragorn can summon the full AotD... and Gandalf will get an anti-balrog enhancement to make it fair)

I want Gondor to be more of an Infantry, Archer, foot-Hero faction while Rohan uses it's cavalry and mounted-heroes...

Rohan:
-Theoden
-Eomer
-Eowyn
-Hama (will be mounted, not sure what powers to use yet)
-Grimbold (will be mounted, not sure what powers to use yet)
-Merry

-Stronger Heroes (HP and Damage will be slightly increased since the 3 hunters are gone)
-Stronger Cavalry (HP and Damage will be slightly increased)

-Replace "Army of the Dead" summons with a "Summon the Blue Wizards" power. (Same reasons as above... the Blue Wizards will get an anti-balrog enhancement as well)

Basically this just moves the 3 hunters to gondor and balances the heroes... I also want to change the team balance so that Gondor players will have a better (more fun and more tolkien-ish) combo than Knights-Gandalf.

Any and all thoughts are welcome.

-GothmogtheOrc

[The Bakerman]

Sounds like a good idea. Plus that is a neat concept for Aragorn. But im sure you will make some people angry with the Gandalf power but Im not one that would be dissapointed.

[zimoo]

Sounds awesome but I have a few suggestions:

1) Rather than making Gondor's cavalry weaker, just make it so that you can't build more than 2 or 3 hordes (cause people will still spam knights even if they are weaker)
2) Add Beregond in as a hero. You could just use the normal tower guard but give him a few abilities (leadership to gondor soldiers etc)
3) If you are basing this mod on the books then remove the buildable elves from Rohan, maybe give Rohan an extra infantry unit
4) Hama should get various bonuses when fighting near Theoden, maybe a royal guard summon aswell?
5) Tower guards should get massive leadership when fighting near citadels

[GothmogtheOrc]

I just realized that I forgot to mention something about Gandalf and the Blue Wizards: They will be set up so that once you summon them they won't have a recharge timer but they will have a respawn code... so once you summon them they'll be just like a normal hero.

My responce to Zimoo's post:

1) That's a good idea, I think I know how to code that... I'll try it.

2) I could add him in and send Pippin over to Rohan.

3) I'd rather not remove the elves, but I'll see what I can do.

4) good idea

5) I like that idea, I think I'll use it

Blue Wizard Update: I've gotten all the powers in-game for both Alatar and Pallando. I still need to tweak a few small things but they're almost fully playable. I also still have to make the custom art and string files but that's not as hard as the actual coding so it shouldn't take too long once I finish the powers.

Also, I haven't decided what powers the new Aragorn should have. This is what I've got so far:

-Athelas (same)
-Blade Master (same)
-Leadership (stronger... he is the one of the best leaders in all of Middle Earth after all)
-???
-???
-Summon FULL Army of the Dead along with the King of the Dead

So, as you can see, there are two blank spots right now. Because I'm using Faramir's model I might be able to make the Mount power work (I haven't had much luck with getting it and custom skins to work together ), the "switch to bow" power could also be used...but I'd rather add atleast one new power for him. Any thoughts?

-GothmogtheOrc

[GothmogtheOrc]

Here is a page of screenshots of my Aragorn skins (Note that they are still WIP)

Link to Screenshots

I'm still going to work on the face and touch up a few spots that I don't think look quite right

Most of the credit for these skins goes to EA as I simply copied and pasted several of the existing skins together to get the desired effect.

-GothmogtheOrc

[captain hama]

what's new rohan units

[ched]

what's new rohan units

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read the first post and you'll know

Gothmog I like the ranger armor, but you'll need to emphasize details on the armor.

[captain hama]

when is mod's can download day?!!
gothmog can u tell me time?

[Bebbe]

when is mod's can download day?!!
gothmog can u tell me time?

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oh please don't ask such thing ,, just wait for the love of god


ok back on topic ,, the ranger outfit looks very nice ,, keep it up

[captain hama]

1:u can add gamling?
2:u can add royal guard on foot and on horse?

[zimoo]

I'd personally rather see Erkenbrand added as Rohan need a good infantry hero, as the 3 hunters have all been removed

[GothmogtheOrc]

I'd personally rather see Erkenbrand added as Rohan need a good infantry hero, as the 3 hunters have all been removed

That could possibly be done. I don't have any preference regarding which rohan replacement heroes are added. I just put down Hama and Grimbold because I remembered their names

EDIT: I looked up the histories of those rohan guys and Hama and Erkenbrand will definately be the two new rohan heroes.

Right now I'm working on all the gondor stuff...when I get to the rohan stuff I'll do some research and find the best set of heroes for rohan

1:u can add gamling?
2:u can add royal guard on foot and on horse?

1: I could, I don't know if I will or not

2: It's possible, I don't know yet if I will or not.

As I said above, I still working exclusively on the Gondor stuff at the moment and I haven't taken a look at the rohan side. I will let you know more when I start on rohan.

Thanks,
-GothmogtheOrc

Edited by GothmogtheOrc, 07 January 2006 - 05:37 PM.

[-Glorfindel-]

hey Guest_cahik_*!do you have msn??

[GothmogtheOrc]

Guest_cahik_*:

Thank you for offering to help, but I can do all my INI coding for the mod on my own. I find it less hassle for me to just sit down and get it done, rather then deal with cordinating who is doing what code and such.

But thanks again for offering


-Glorfindel-:

As your previous post has nothing to do with the "Kings of the West" mod topic, I concider it spam. Please do not post that type of post in my sub-forum. Thanks

-GothmogtheOrc

[Shadow-Blitzz]

Hey guys I like It Gothy I think you Should add Like some power to tree beard like a " Call of The Wild" or somthing cool to make him better at attack, And some Cool Hero's that do serious help to orks themselves, like aguy who gives them Major attack help and serious like armour, and some other really sweet stuff.
Thx

[zimoo]

If you're planning on adding new abilities for Treebeard I have a suggestion. Give him an ability called Ent-Draughts, which heals nearby heros and ents, and also extinguishes any ents that are on fire

[thursti]

Why though, the burning ents are a good way to kill them without the burning part killing ents would be that much harder. And healing heroes and ents doesnt sound to promising no offense