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[crave22]

Blaat has the pipe. (since Ash is out I'll grant it to you)

[Athena]

It may or may not be odd coming from me, but I agree with Ash. I know sometimes I get wound up about stuff (though it doesn't happen often that it results in forum posts), however that isn't the way. This is an RP and we're here to have fun. If you have a complaint about someone's army or whatnot, I say contact crave (the CCW leader) or Ash (RPGG admin), or make a decent rather than a flamey post (which in return will anger the person being flamed at, possibly a flame in return etc). Anyway, Ash's post mostly said it.

[jaboo224]

paradox pm'd me this thread.



Anywho im really sick of someone who keeps thinking that they are right no matter what even when you explain your situation fully they still become narrow headed and assume things. Even in the outcome after i have stated that my 100% pop wasnt army spencer kept going on on how its godmodding if it was, even if i NEVER DID SAY THAT MY FULL POP WAS ARMY. Hell Spencer even said he was going through all the database threads, Mine had my 2 years of military experience in it so apperantly he doesnt read things properlly. Not to mention the narrow minded views of spencer when he would call someone a NAZI on a comment "you dont know Germanias people" I have always stated that i was a secretive country and was a propagandist kinda more like russia durring cold war. Nor does PAX GERMANIA have anything to do with the nazi's or german empire to be exact..... It was based off of 2 names PAX Romania and PAX Americana. What really pissed me off is even after i would completely explain myself even tho i had everything squared away from the beginning and approved is that people would still assume the old things.... does anyone read my posts?????? And Torn put it a good way by saying "stop it jaboo we dont care" Which made no sence because in the topic he comes in there saying im god modding even tho it wasnt 100% that was just in spencers brain and then when i try to explain myself he goes stop it i dont care? So what is this a point a finger world where a person cant explain why or how they did something?

Not to mention when i go into another thread that spencer is right there flaming me when i havnt even posted in it then saying that i started it....

As well Torn had it out for me in the beginning even in my joining thread he said "oh not you" and even when im telling clandonia important information he goes "Just go please...." .... frankly thats just rude.

I as well appologized looking for some decent replies and what i got was another little rant by Spencer.... im sorry but it should of ended there, i realised i went childish with the calling of the names but nothing got through to him because you didnt even read my posts....... But its the fact that i at least felt sorry for my actions.

Edited by jaboo224, 06 July 2006 - 07:51 PM.

[Ash]

(Yeah, sorry, Jaboo pmed me. Wasn't fast enough XD)

Spence now has the floor.

[MSpencer]

This is where it becomes my fault again.
I'll divide and conquer here.

Even in the outcome after i have stated that my 100% pop wasnt army spencer kept going on on how its godmodding if it was, even if i NEVER DID SAY THAT MY FULL POP WAS ARMY. Hell Spencer even said he was going through all the database threads, Mine had my 2 years of military experience in it so apperantly he doesnt read things properlly.

That doesn't matter. The max conscription rate is 0.5% in the armed forces at any time, or something like that (It's in the rules). It is impossible to have a fairly large country where every single person has 2 years of military experience. I have argued that before, it is physically impossible, and then when you tried to say that I know nothing of your people, it must automatically be assumed that your German fix for the natural disabilities of people and conscientious objector status would be the Master Race, thus prompting the Reich.

narrow minded views of spencer

I love how in a thread meant for reconciliation, the insults continue.

It was based off of 2 names PAX Romania and PAX Americana.

That would be Pax Romana, and Pax is Latin for peace, and thus should not be fully capitalized at all times.

Not to mention when i go into another thread that spencer is right there flaming me when i havnt even posted in it then saying that i started it....

If you had even read that certain thread, you would understand how you came up. If you're talking about the other thread, I wasn't even talking about you.

does anyone read my posts??????

When we raise legitimate, valid questions which were not clarified by your posts and you call us idiots and start off on us, it's quite difficult to take you seriously, so in short, we started off reading your posts, but we stopped halfway after you decided to flame us every time we posted.

wasnt 100% that was just in spencers brain

You said everyone had 2 years of military experience. Explain to me how everyone is not 100%.

"Just go please...." .... frankly thats just rude.

You quit and flamed him all over the forum. He even said please. I would have probably said the same thing if he hadn't posted it.

why or how they did something?

Why or how is pointless as long as it is against the rules that were laid down at the start of the RPG.

what i got was another little rant by Spencer

How come your ego hasn't crushed you? It must generate about 30,000 atmospheres of pressure...
That rant wasn't even aimed at you. Get over it.

NEVER DID SAY THAT MY FULL POP WAS ARMY

100% military experience... that means 100% must have been in the military at some point, which is quite impossible considering the max military limit is 0.5%. I'm not in a position to do the math out right now, but that seems mathematically impossible to me, unless your idea of training is handing them a uniform and a gun.

but nothing got through to him because you didnt even read my posts

I tried to read them through the insults. When I raised a nice peaceful question in a thread, I was assaulted with a barrage of insults. Nothing had happened prior to that.
Now explain that.

squared away from the beginning and approved

I believed I raised the same question when you joined, but you shrugged it off and never gave a satisfactory answer.

Hell Spencer even said he was going through all the database threads

How many people do we have in this RPG? How much spare time do I have? If you can do my daily scheduling for me and find some extra time to peruse every single database thread, go right ahead. Do it. I'll give you my scheduling information immediately, but I won't be paying you anything at all.
I don't have an infinite amount of time on my hands. I would like to read everyone's threads, but I only target people who have actually done some suspect things ingame, things which can be considered godmodding or pseudo-godmodding. You slipped through the cracks, however I'm sure if I raised the same question in the database comments thread, you would have reacted the same way, with a barrage of insults, calling me an illiterate idiot.

[Ash]

Hm. Wasn't the PP about NOT getting into argument/counterargument?

And so the logical summary to Spencer's stabs here is that questions shall be interpreted as questions and nothing more, and that the sort of mindless jabbing as in the last post will come to an end.

[jaboo224]

I made a typo i meant Romana and im sorry to say spence but you are wrong once again. Frankly your post is innacurate and ego filled.

[MSpencer]

Oh and here we revert to the one sentence "You're wrong" things. Ok, forget it.
If this was meant for reconciliation, I believe it officially failed.

[jaboo224]

As Crave said to me on msn "It isnt worth it" i would write up something fancy like you did but again i dont think its worth it. So ill be the man and drop it i guess. even tho it should of dropped when i appologized.

Edited by jaboo224, 06 July 2006 - 09:15 PM.

[Hostile]

I just wanted to comment on a few things with a neutral voice.

Hostile questions me and Torns actions of conquering a country but he does not question the terrorist attack on one of Pyths train which didn't derail the train? Crazy talk

I just went through the whole thread there and I only posted once. It was one sentence about supporting craves fleet.
i never mentioned anything about the two of you conquering a country. You must have confused me with someone else.

I also didn't really care if a train derailed or not, not my job, that's the rpg mods job.

NEVER DID SAY THAT MY FULL POP WAS ARMY

100% military experience... that means 100% must have been in the military at some point, which is quite impossible considering the max military limit is 0.5%. I'm not in a position to do the math out right now, but that seems mathematically impossible to me, unless your idea of training is handing them a uniform and a gun.

Maybe it's just me but when he said 100% I would have assumed 100% of able bodied men and women had at some time served two years service like Israelis do. My common sense would have defined it that way, though I suppose it should have been more clearly defined as one cannot assumed people will see it the way when reading it.

Just my few thoughts. I've been kinda laying low here as the flame battles have been more fierce than the rpg battles.

[Shine On]

I am curious as to why people are taking this so seriously, like its been stated countless times, its a game just for a bit of fun.
Isn't it interesting that either my or my nation has been mentioned only once in this thread? If i can keep things calm and not have any flame battles then so can you. I mean just lighten up some of you, by all means get engrossed but don't take things as personal insults... thats is unless you're Ali

Note: Sorry if i've posted without requesting but no bugger is online

[Torn]

Guys, this topic was made for this whole thing not to occur. Ash has control of who says what, and you guys are just flat out arguing with the counter post thing. And jaboo, you did quit, but you still continue to get yourself involved. If you care so much, why quit in the first place?

[Ash]

Yeah, thanks Torn. This thread was quite clearly a wasted venture on my part to try and solve matters peacefully. I hate this. This bickering. I wanted us to get it resolved without further bickering. I think everyone involved has made their points. Now I want everyone whom those points were directed at (Yes, that includes YOU, Spencer!) to read over them again. I don't want you to post, in fact I'll delete them if you do, but I want you to just all sit down, shut the fuck up, and wonder why you're all taking it so seriously, making destructive comments, and treating it as anything but the laid-back casual game it is supposed to be. Yes, it's supposed to be fun. Yes, it's supposed to be dramatic, and yes I appreciate there are times when one inadvertently godmods, but if you are going to pull someone up on it, do it constructively. Not everyone knows how many tanks America has. Not everyone knows how much said tanks cost. So don't eat them alive if they contravene your Laws of Numbers. Or I swear to God, I'll invoke the Justice Field, let alone Crave. Because I'm sick of it.

[MSpencer]

I suppose you'd prefer people run around with 45,000 tanks? I've stopped plenty of people from having astronomical numbers, militaries larger than all the forces on the entire planet combined, having ships fifty times larger than anything ever constructed, and more airplanes than the entire world has fielded at once, commercial and military, and you're saying that you would prefer I didn't? Well fine, next time, I won't pay any attention to any military sizes. What's to stop me now from saying I just produced 55,000 tanks over night? Nothing.
If you want to bitch about people correcting astronomical figures, bitch at the people who try to argue their way out of the inescapable truth. Realism and fun go hand in hand, if you let people run rampant with their 500,000 M1A2s, they will obliterate everything on the entire planet and ruin the game.
Oh well, as made quite clear here, that's not my problem. Not my problem at all.

[chemical ali]

I agree with spence, you have to keep the numbers realistic, which is why Spencer is in control of numbers and looking at the militarys.

[Ash]

I agree numbers should not be *that* high, but I don't see as everyone should be *expected* to know how many tanks they could have. Not everyone has the military knowledge you have, Spencer, and so your condescension could be lessened. That was my point - there are ways to put across your point without conveying a standoffish attitude.

[Torn]

Exactly. Numbers need to be kept in check to stop them from going excessive, but if the wars are reffed then it's not going to matter. Ash or crave isn't going to let somebody go 'MY 50,000 TANKS OUTNUMBER YOURS AND WIN!' as it's stupid.

[MSpencer]

Oh it will matter even if the battles are reffed, because one country might lose 500 tanks in a deadly frontal assault, but that doesn't matter, because nobody will remember and they'll drag out 500 more, then 500 more, then 500 more...

[Athena]

I personally think that's up to the RP master to decide upon, if anyone has a problem with another person's forces, they should contact the RP master or RPGG admin, instead of making unpolite posts.

(btw I agree with most said in this post.)

[Athena]

((There's not much people around but I want to ask.. is this topic only regarding the flames and such or can I also say some things about this RP in general? Otherwise I can also make another topic or something. If question answered, post can be deleted if wished.))