Infantry:
U.S. Marine
->M16 assault rifle
Javelin Infantry
->Javelin ATGM
Stinger Infantry
->Stinger MANPADs
Marine Scout Sniper
->M82 .50 caliber sniper rifle
Navy SEAL
->M4 carbine
->C4
*Delta Force
->XM29 assault rifle
->Laser Designator for Airstrikes
Vehicles:
Humvee
->.50 caliber machine gun
#->TOW launcher
Can carry 3 soldiers
SLAMRAAM (humvee with 6 AMRAAM’s on it)
->6 AMRAAM’s
M2A3 Bradley
->25mm cannon
->Dual TOW launchers
Can carry 4 soldiers
M1A2 Abrams
->120mm cannon
->.50 caliber machine gun
M109 Paladin
->155mm howitzer
M270 MLRS
->12 cluster munitions rockets
*Stryker
->105mm cannon
->TOW launcher
->.50 caliber machine gun
Can carry 4 soldiers
Aircraft:
F-22A Raptor
->6 AIM-120D AMRAAM’s
->2 AIM-9X Sidewinders
F-35A Lightning II
->2 JDAM’s
->4 AIM-120D AMRAAM’s
F-15E Strike Eagle
->8 Small Diameter Bombs
#->4 AIM-9X Sidewinders
*F/A-18E Super Hornet
->4 JSOW’s
*B-2A Spirit
->16 JDAM’s
*B-1B Lancer
->cluster bombs
AH-64D Apache
->8 Hellfire ATGM’
->30mm machine gun
*RAH-66 Comanche
->8 Hellfire ATGM’s
->20mm machine gun
->Rocket pods
UH-60 Blackhawk
Can carry 6 soldiers
* = General power
# = Upgrade
This is a basic overview of the US side. All of it is subject to change.
United States Unit List
Started by narboza22, Jan 23 2007 01:44 AM
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 01:44 AM
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 08:22 AM
Commander_HK47(Tac-War member) here,
Change the U.S. Marine so that it uses the M-4/M203 GL
+Add Support Gunner
M249 SAW machine gun, i have coded some cool stuff for this guy
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I say merge Navy Seal with Detail Force(and code it with mob logic for Delta Force Squad with 5 unit groups with auto unit regent. off among other tech specs that ill bring up.) they should keep the C4, but loss Laser Designator for Air strikes *see below*
+Add Strike coordinator(code name: "paper boy")
Arm him with the LASER Designator(replace with tools real name) and give him a short range weapon like a mp5(limit to one unit at a time to minimize abuse)
Been playing with the default sniper, and I've come up with a way for people to take them out "tactically" so they can't be used like mass infantry killing machines. That is i gave him a clip of 10 rounds, and adjusted the reload time, so there is a brake when you can "bum rush the unit him and avoid mass unit loss when engaging them. Also added the clip size so you can see it when you are using the sniper so you know when you need to fall back.
I say drop the Comanche take on the suggestions i had for the Apache including the TV guided stuff, and replace it(Comanche)with my RH-6J little bird. 2 max infantry passenger excluding Delta force as they would be a mob logic unit issue...
They are all suggestion of course
Change the U.S. Marine so that it uses the M-4/M203 GL
+Add Support Gunner
M249 SAW machine gun, i have coded some cool stuff for this guy
)I say merge Navy Seal with Detail Force(and code it with mob logic for Delta Force Squad with 5 unit groups with auto unit regent. off among other tech specs that ill bring up.) they should keep the C4, but loss Laser Designator for Air strikes *see below*
+Add Strike coordinator(code name: "paper boy")
Arm him with the LASER Designator(replace with tools real name) and give him a short range weapon like a mp5(limit to one unit at a time to minimize abuse)
Been playing with the default sniper, and I've come up with a way for people to take them out "tactically" so they can't be used like mass infantry killing machines. That is i gave him a clip of 10 rounds, and adjusted the reload time, so there is a brake when you can "bum rush the unit him and avoid mass unit loss when engaging them. Also added the clip size so you can see it when you are using the sniper so you know when you need to fall back.
I say drop the Comanche take on the suggestions i had for the Apache including the TV guided stuff, and replace it(Comanche)with my RH-6J little bird. 2 max infantry passenger excluding Delta force as they would be a mob logic unit issue...
They are all suggestion of course
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 09:14 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAV_25
Add the LAV-25, its a good anti-infantry and light anti-armor vehicle,
anyway the main reason we need it is becuase its amphibious, and we need at least one amphibious unit in every faction
Add the LAV-25, its a good anti-infantry and light anti-armor vehicle,
anyway the main reason we need it is becuase its amphibious, and we need at least one amphibious unit in every faction
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 09:59 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAV_25
Add the LAV-25, its a good anti-infantry and light anti-armor vehicle,
anyway the main reason we need it is becuase its amphibious, and we need at least one amphibious unit in every faction
Stryker is in the list with 3 variants and LAV-25 is a similar model. But since the U.S. infantry consist of the Marine soldiers not the U.S. Army soldiers, then I prefer the LAV-25 because Stryker is used by the Army and the LAV by the Marines. But at the end, the two models are very similar. I think the use the same type of chassis.
Edited by rezz, 25 January 2007 - 10:01 AM.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 11:00 AM
will B-2 have command center upgrade to tactical nuke
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 02:32 PM
Refering to Rezz, I said it before and ill say it again, THE MORE UNITS THE BETTER! anyway, Strykers and LAVs have different uses, even though they look alike in some cases, but then again so is the T80 and T90!
as for the B-2, no, we need the mod to seem realistic, so there will be no tactical nukes since in reality they do massive damage, but maybe other upgrades could be added for example; it start with carpet bombs, but then could be upgraded with air fuel bomb, and upgraded again with MOAB (just an example)
as for the B-2, no, we need the mod to seem realistic, so there will be no tactical nukes since in reality they do massive damage, but maybe other upgrades could be added for example; it start with carpet bombs, but then could be upgraded with air fuel bomb, and upgraded again with MOAB (just an example)
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 02:34 PM
WMD's will probably not be included for the sake of realism.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 03:37 PM
could you add shermans and m48s??? lol just joking i dunno but some units like m16 arent old? you know beter than me but add grenade launchers and more explosive stuff
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Posted 22 February 2007 - 05:45 AM
Don't know if you already are doing it but seeing that the USA is trying to create more commonality among its units, could you make the individual units [ie: Hmmwv] have upgrades
HMMWV -> avenger -> losat [line of sight anti tank]
Bradley M2A3 -> M6 Linebacker [AA]
F22 -> YB22 [fighter bomber]
F35A -> F35C [vtol]
Stryker MG -> mortar -> 105
Also since its in the future, even though they both are cancelled would you consider replacing the aging Paladin with the newer Crusader and replace the m16 with the XM8. Both are newer, faster, more efficient, and better designs.
http://en.wikipedia....XM2001_Crusader
http://en.wikipedia....0-03-101023.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FB-22
http://en.wikipedia....iki/XM8_(rifle)
HMMWV -> avenger -> losat [line of sight anti tank]
Bradley M2A3 -> M6 Linebacker [AA]
F22 -> YB22 [fighter bomber]
F35A -> F35C [vtol]
Stryker MG -> mortar -> 105
Also since its in the future, even though they both are cancelled would you consider replacing the aging Paladin with the newer Crusader and replace the m16 with the XM8. Both are newer, faster, more efficient, and better designs.
http://en.wikipedia....XM2001_Crusader
http://en.wikipedia....0-03-101023.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FB-22
http://en.wikipedia....iki/XM8_(rifle)
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Posted 22 February 2007 - 07:47 AM
The Humvees will have the upgrades you mentioned (the avenger will be a seperate unit)
The bradley and the linebacker are seperate units
and as for the tanks, we will not be adding anymore, M1A2 is our tank...
as for the XM8 we might add (it really wont make a difference for people as long as its a gun that shoots)
As for the F-35, it is going to be a fighter (depending on the version), and the F-22 is a fighter bomber. In the end all planes even the fighter bombers will ave machineguns to remain in combat after emptying their missiles
The bradley and the linebacker are seperate units
and as for the tanks, we will not be adding anymore, M1A2 is our tank...
as for the XM8 we might add (it really wont make a difference for people as long as its a gun that shoots)
As for the F-35, it is going to be a fighter (depending on the version), and the F-22 is a fighter bomber. In the end all planes even the fighter bombers will ave machineguns to remain in combat after emptying their missiles
Edited by KniveZ, 22 February 2007 - 07:52 AM.
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Posted 22 February 2007 - 10:20 PM
On the master list I have, the US infantry already carry the XM8 I just haven't updated this list in a while.
The AA units for all sides are still open for discussion. I'm not sure how many AA vehicles (ie. Linebacker, Avenger, Tungusta...) and stationary AA sites (ie. Patriot, S-300, THAAD...) each side will have. Plus, should they be SAM's or AAA?
The FB-22 probably won't be around for a really long time since the F-15E was recently cleared to keep flying for quite a while.
The F-35C on the other hand could be really cool. You could have a generals upgrade that would let you spawn 3 -35C's somewhere on the map.
The F-22A is going to be the fighter for the US and the F-35A is going to the fighter bomber
I just haven't updated this list in a while.The AA units for all sides are still open for discussion. I'm not sure how many AA vehicles (ie. Linebacker, Avenger, Tungusta...) and stationary AA sites (ie. Patriot, S-300, THAAD...) each side will have. Plus, should they be SAM's or AAA?
The FB-22 probably won't be around for a really long time since the F-15E was recently cleared to keep flying for quite a while.
The F-35C on the other hand could be really cool. You could have a generals upgrade that would let you spawn 3 -35C's somewhere on the map.
The F-22A is going to be the fighter for the US and the F-35A is going to the fighter bomber
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 11:17 AM
Your sides are too similar, IMHO you should make more differenses in units and tactics.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 08:22 AM
It would be good to have some kind of upgrade for the Abrams...in it's current state it would be easy target for T-90s and modern AT missles. BTW, the Crusader is gone for sure- the next gen self-propelled howitzer for the US will be NLOS-C.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 03:59 PM
The US has been replaced by the North American Union, which is Canada, US and Mexico put together and there have been some changes 
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Edited by Soul, 29 August 2007 - 04:00 PM.
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Posted 04 September 2007 - 02:37 PM
I think, the first satellite of USA is Britain, not Canada or Mexico... Really, not any political reason to join whole North America to one side.
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Posted 04 September 2007 - 03:42 PM
I think, the first satellite of USA is Britain, not Canada or Mexico... Really, not any political reason to join whole North America to one side.
thats too true. we have more reasons to go to war with Mexico than China or Russia. US/Britan or even US/Japan are far more likely political pairs.
Between now and the next polished release there should be very little new art work done. Instead the focus is on designing, testing, and fixing. the mod has always been so close to finished that its nearly criminal. I'd love to see this through to the end with a real community effort.
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Posted 04 September 2007 - 04:46 PM
So your saying to not only drop Mexico, but Canada as well.
Also the new forums for the mod can be found here.
Also the new forums for the mod can be found here.
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Posted 03 April 2010 - 03:46 AM
i think the m16 should be a m16a4 that isnt old and should be in use for 10 years or so
Apparently... more people die every year by donkeys, then in plane crashes. To avoid death by a donkey, avoid donkeys, to avoid death by plane crash, avoid plan crashes! simple.
M4 is a single/3 round burst gun, it did not serve its role as a compact assault rifle for close quarters, so they made much greatness that is now known as the m4a1 which is so great it has automatic fire, and with that greatness came spray n pray.
M16A4 single/burst very accurate, moderate power, in close quarters, fix a bayonet, cuz you aint gonna hit crap with it.
M4 is a single/3 round burst gun, it did not serve its role as a compact assault rifle for close quarters, so they made much greatness that is now known as the m4a1 which is so great it has automatic fire, and with that greatness came spray n pray.
M16A4 single/burst very accurate, moderate power, in close quarters, fix a bayonet, cuz you aint gonna hit crap with it.
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