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[narboza22]

Infantry:
French Marine Infantry
->FAMAS

Eryx Infantry
->Eryx ATGM

Star Streak Infantry
->Star Streak MANPADs

SAS infantry
-> L85A2 Assault Rifle


Vehicles:
Land Rover
Can carry 3 soldiers

Warrior
->30mm cannon
Can carry 4 soldiers

Leclerc
->120mm cannon
->.50 caliber machine gun

Leopard II
->140mm cannon

Challenger II
->120mm cannon

Pzh-2000
->155mm howitzer

Star Streak Vehicle
->Star Streak launcher

Aircraft:
Eurofighter Typhoon
->4 Meteor AA missiles
->2 AIM-132 ASRAAM’s

Rafale
->2 MICA AA missiles
->3 bombs

Harrier
->Rocket pods
*->2 AIM-9X Sidewinders

Tiger
->8 HOT3 ATGM’s
->30mm machine gun
*->Rocket pods

Tornado
->6 bombs

* = Generals power

[rezz]

I suggested the following changes:

1- Remove Leclec since there are already to good MBTs and instead add the CV-90 APC (and CV-90 model is almost complete)

2- Remove Rafale since Rafale and Typhoon play the same role. I suggest we add Rafale in future releases. Its too many aircrafts for the first release. Now we release each faction with primary vehicles:
1 or 2 MBT
1 or 2 APC
1 transport
3 aircrafts
1 or two helis
and later expand each side and add more variants and of each vehicle and aircrafts.

3- Replace Gripen with Tornado because Tornado is out of service since 2004. Gripen is a good choice since its a JAS. That is Fighter, Attacker and Reconnaissances aircraft. (multi-purpose) and EU aircraft list will be complete with it for initial release. (Harrier II is attacker and Typhoon is the fighter).

4- Add the Land Rover Ambulance. What is the cost? Same model as the Land Rover 109 but different texture.

[KniveZ]

keep the Leclerc, dont remove anything, the more units the better.

I suggest make two factions with their full arsenal and everything on the list, and every release we add a new faction, That way IMO is much more effective and more people would download newer versions if they have new factions rather than just some units. That way, we get more downloads AND we can get more organized and start crossing off factions that 100% done with every version!

This mod needs an organized unit list, so dont just add units and start on every faction. Just make it the sufficient way Start and finish ONE FACTION, get it fully right and test it, then work on another faction get it 100% done and release the mod. Then make a third faction and get it 100% done, then release another version, then make the fourth, fifth etc... (I understand you started with more than one faction, so just stop making models for many factions and continue working for only one)

Edited by KniveZ, 24 January 2007 - 09:34 PM.

[rezz]

keep the Leclerc, dont remove anything, the more units the better.

I suggest make two factions with their full arsenal and everything on the list, and every release we add a new faction, That way IMO is much more effective and more people would download newer versions if they have new factions rather than just some units. That way, we get more downloads AND we can get more organized and start crossing off factions that 100% done with every version!

This mod needs an organized unit list, so dont just add units and start on every faction. Just make it the sufficient way Start and finish ONE FACTION, get it fully right and test it, then work on another faction get it 100% done and release the mod. Then make a third faction and get it 100% done, then release another version, then make the fourth, fifth etc... (I understand you started with more than one faction, so just stop making models for many factions and continue working for only one)

Ageed.

I already discussed the same matter with Narboza22 before and we agreed on doing EU first. Thus, I started with EU. But some modelers can not model anything other than vehicles of their home country.. quite strange to me.

So, are there any new decisions on which faction is the first to be completed ?? If not, I will continue modeling EU units.

[Commander_HK47]

I didn't mean it like that Rezz:P, I meant that that the models may not turn ot so great. as I don't really know what the look like Not that i wouldn't model them.

[KniveZ]

Look, since you already have EU and Iranian models, finish these two factions!

later we will decide what faction to add for the next release.

[Jim Morrison]

Ageed.

I already discussed the same matter with Narboza22 before and we agreed on doing EU first. Thus, I started with EU. But some modelers can not model anything other than vehicles of their home country.. quite strange to me.

So, are there any new decisions on which faction is the first to be completed ?? If not, I will continue modeling EU units.

night talking with hk47 and if he can provide help i was just modelling the british tank... also the main thing is that the only modeller that had problems on making western units was me so that part about "modellers" dont put innocent ppl as i was just trying to make things easier about letting ppl with more knowledge on western units do the job and doing things better than me because i cant take a close look on to see details because those units are not found around here just to make things better. but with some grat effort the anglisky tanki will be finished by this night with look of no vodka on blood so lets make a final no agrettion peace treat

Edited by Jim Morrison, 26 January 2007 - 03:35 PM.

[rezz]

night talking with hk47 and if he can provide help i was just modelling the british tank... also the main thing is that shiftee.gif the only modeller that had problems on making western units was me so that part about "modellers" dont put innocent ppl rolleyes.gif as i was just trying to make things easier about letting ppl with more knowledge on western units do the job and doing things better than me because i cant take a close look on to see details because those units are not found around here just to make things better. wink.gif but with some grat effort the anglisky tanki will be finished by this night with look of no vodka on blood wub.gif so lets make a final no agrettion peace treat wub.gif

good luck

[steffy]

The G36 is a much better rifle then both the Famas or the L85A2, the Brits are even considering replacing thier L85s with them.
Also the land rover is bieng replaced by this beauty, the Alvis Panther. It may be a bit harder to model, but its a much more capable vehicle.
The Rafale and the Typhoon both should stay, the Harrier was already retired by the british navy and its land counterpart will soon meet the same fate. It shouldn't be there unless you need a vtol. The rafale could become the Rafale M, the naval 2 seat version that has good bombing capabilities then a standard typhoon. As much as I want to see it, he tornado should be taken out as well as its on the way to aircraft heaven. Put instead the Grippen like rezz said.
The CV90 would be a great addition to the EU. Its plenty upgradeable and offers an anti air and an anti tank version.
If not the CV the french AMX10 comes in many different flavors that would replace or compliment the warrior. theres an amphibious as well as armoured car version.
And as a cheaper less effective counterpart to the MLRS can you squeeze in the german Lars-2? its not the prettiest but it does the job.

And if you need to look at some good tech theres this sight "http://www.army-guid...g/products.php" it lists almost every country and its army inventory, doesnt do the airforce but its good to find most everything on the ground.


http://en.wikipedia....Liaison_Vehicle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CV_90 and http://en.wikipedia....mage:Cv9030.jpg
http://www.army-guid...product239.html

[steffy]

you have a helicopter list? the future lynx, panther, and EH101 should be there.

http://www.army-tech...ts/future-lynx/
http://www.army-tech...projects/eh101/
http://www.army-tech...projects/as565/

also if not the panther vehicle you could try the fennek or eagle vehicles

http://www.army-tech...rojects/fennek/
http://www.army-tech...projects/eagle/

[KniveZ]

nice, but we completed the unit list for Russia, EU, China, and Iran but the master iist is not posted here.

[narboza22]

We still need to work out the infantry and the AA vehicle for the EU.

Thanks for all the links Steffy The Fennek is sweet.

[Soul]

The factions have gotten some changes lately, also it's being hosted on it own forums and it's on C&C 3 now.

[Baraking]

nice, but we completed the unit list for Russia, EU, China, and Iran but the master iist is not posted here.

Sorry, i was making a fault, so now i have to reply my reply

But what i wanna say: The Europian Union needs more vechiles. Also, why most of the units are British or Frensh? They make the most vechiles, but if you check Wikipedia, you see the Germans have a better tank, the Dutch have the bestest APC, and i think the Italians had a AA-vechile. Also, maybe you must change the soldiers. The Frensh and SAS soldiers are fine, but why 2 infantry-units with rockets? Maybe you can do some German dogs or combat engineers (always handy!)

I just wanna say: The EU needs better units than those...

This mod is dead anyway...