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Posted 25 December 2007 - 03:49 PM

1-build a new power for last level of tree power for men of the east summon a grate viper like symbol of harad .
2-captain of easterling become unfang hi betray the elves in book and join force of morgoth .
3-and another power for evil men summon the morgoth for 1 min morgoth as suron but with 1 one hand mace and black shield .tanksPosted Imagethe morgoth

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 01:13 AM

you cant summon morgoth because he has been expelled from middle earth long before now; he cannot return.
exactly where are you getting this idea of a giant viper?
i have no idea what you are trying to say on number 2, but if it has anything to do with morgoth, reference my first comment.

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 03:13 AM

Hahahaha, I'm guessing English isn't your first language :thumbsupsmiley:. Lol, just joking.

1. I wanted the same thing. When I read The Return of the King I always thought the Black Serpent standard was an actual Black Serpent (I read it when I was 12 :ninja:) instead of a metaphor for a captain, and since then I've always wanted to see a serpent in this game.
2. He's saying he wants the Easterling Captain to become Ulfang the Black, the Man who betrayed his people and made an alliance with Morgoth in the First Age (which is obviously out of the question ;)).
3. Morgoth has nothing to do with Men of the East, would be grossly overpowered or would not apply to lore, and would require modeling work for something a lot of people wouldn't like.

Keep making suggestions though ;), the first one was something I want as well.

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 02:03 PM

op is an understatement for morgoth! he would have completely annhilated an entire army in seconds and would be invincible to normal soldiers.

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Posted 30 December 2007 - 09:10 PM

you mean you thought it was an actual giant black snake? :p

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Posted 30 December 2007 - 11:31 PM

Hahaha, yea, like some huge Basilisk type thing. It's not that out there lol :p. I doubt something like that would ever be implemented though. Would be hell to animate.

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 03:14 PM

Not really, just use the skeleton of the Wyrm.
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Posted 27 February 2008 - 01:03 PM

Huge black snake, fullcontrolable by player
. . . sounds awasome ! damn i like that idea

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 04:39 AM

But wasn't it said that Morgoth would return to Arda again? Sauron was cast back until Melkor returned. Also, Melkor was not immune, he, unlike most Valar, chose to take physical form. Therefore, he was at risk of being destroyed. He was weakened because he spread his evil too thinly, unable to beat Ungoliant (it took several balrogs to subdue her, something Sauron could manage). Also, he was destroyed by a Maiar. Therefore, he is vincible.
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Posted 06 March 2008 - 01:50 AM

he wasnt destroyed, he was defeated and locked away. and are you saying that sauron could have killed ungoliant or that sauron could command multiple balrogs? he definetly cannot defeat ungoliant if he needed to, nor could he command multiple balrogs.
also, there is no being(s) in middle earth that is(are) capable of destroying one of the valar (let alone the most powerful one), even the istari (they are maia) could not destroy morgoth if they teamed together.

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 11:01 AM

Sargeras, lord of the Burning legion was cast back too

But he tried to destroy mortal world again after more then 10 000 years. Demons dont forgive failure, and theyr hatred wont grow weaker !

Soo as for Morgoth ( sounds better then orig name :ph34r: ) we could hypoteticaly say, that he still thinks how to cross the line and come back to Middlearth, and make thoose who exiled him pay for his loong trip in Void
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


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Posted 06 March 2008 - 09:05 PM

but he wasnt just exiled, he was chained down and pretty much locked away so that he could never escape; they made sure of that.

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 01:10 AM

I think somewhere it was said that at the end of Arda Melkor would once again be free, kinda like the Apocalypse in The Bible, but Dalf is right, it wouldn't happen in lore. I think the reason Melkor couldn't defeat Ungoliant was because she had "eaten" the light of the Simarils, which made her considerably stronger. No one could kill Melkor in Middle-Earth, it wouldn't make sense and unbalance whichever faction gets him completely.

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 01:41 PM

well i kinda thing we getting OT

just as you said, noone could kill Morgoth (still like it more than Melkor :ph34r: ), soo no summon morgoth power, howhg
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 11:24 AM

soo, as we all know, the new beta includes MoTE evil race, new palantir power tree.

as what i want to say with this - one of the " blessed " who are able to play it, might be that much of friend, and post here the powers that the evil man have recieved :
( for all other interested, i thank you, good soul who posts it ) :wink_new:
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 07:39 PM

None yet :wink_new: There's a list of prospective powers over in private forums...I guess we could copy that into here.

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 07:56 PM

if we could ask you that fawor :crazed: are you willing to post it here ? :wink_new:
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 08:40 PM

Better make sure it's ok with rob first :p

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Posted 25 May 2008 - 05:29 PM

ok soo 1 month has passed since i was asking for this, and since then im sure Rob wont oppose, if i ask for it now.

soo:


Can you finally make official WHAT are the powers included in the new MOTE Palantir Power tree ? i wish to know if some of the fan ideas have made they way thru ( i realy wish to know if the Giand Sandstorm power is in there, everyone liked it when it was discussed soo im anxius, for i wish to play with such thing really badly :thumbsupsmiley: )
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 03:38 PM

Seeing as someone else woke the Thread up :thumbsupsmiley: I'll add to it.
Throughout Middle-earth's history, people frequently named themselves after heroes of the past - this was found particularly in the Kings of Gondor (Etchelion, Denethor, etc) even Aragorn was "Aragorn II". So it's not too far-fetched for the Easterling Captain to be named after Ulfang.




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