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[Romanul]

Well,heard out in the last days that it seems McCain is starting to win in the front of Obama.

Heard out that McCain has with 8% more support.

Personally,I think that its allready enought bad that McCain has been allected to candidate...but Americans being that stupid?Seriously...

[duke_Qa]

he jumped up with 8-11%points a test taken just after the republican meeting, which is usually a bad time to do statistics. And although that palin woman have taken the limelight from Obama, its a presidential election and not a vice-presidential election, and someone should remind the media about that. its McCain or Obama that gets to sleep in the White house and do the major day-to-day decisions.

Anyways, i have to say i've been annoyed by the development of this election. "Bread and Circus" thats that this is... distract the crowds with some cute hockey-wife that talks conservative bullshit that is decades old and suddenly its all mush between ones ears. Bleh, hopefully things will work out for the better in the end. If the americans vote in another republican after bush i don't know what i would think.

[m@tt]

As Duke said, it was taken after their conference. I read in the paper the other day that this is what usually happens, so expect Obama to increase his ratings after his conference.

[Vortigern]

Yeah, it's simply a case of public awareness at the moment. Obama's been relatively quiet for the past few weeks, whereas Sarah Palin and John McCain have been all over the news and making headlines everywhere. As soon as Obama grabs the spotlight again it'll all go back to how it was.

I'm 95% certain the American public won't elect another Republican after the mess Bush has made of not only America, but the entire world to boot. However much McCain distances himself from Bush, they're still both members of the same party, and that's not going to be easy to overlook.

[Elvenlord]

You'd be surprised. This is just my estimate, based on life experiances, but at least 70% of voters are die-hard for their party. Bunch of idiots, us Americans are. The South, for example, are all likely to vote Republican, no matter what past history the party has. Obama seems to be the one likely to win, but I'm no where near 95% sure. Maybe 60%, 70% pushing it.

[Cossack]

Americans are just plain stupid.

I watched the republican convention, and it was absolute bullshit. Nothing but a bunch of partisan attacks to get the redneck crowd riled up. Rudy Giuliani even made fun (while the whole crowd ate it up) of Barack Obama for being a community organiser. They did not mention anything about the fucked up state their country is in, and how most of them were at least partially resposible for it. Then comes Sarah Palin, whos speach was written by one of Bush's writers, who again does not mention any issues and instead goes on tasteless attacks against Obama and the dems. This creationist, close-minded, gun toting bitch (yes, I called her a bitch and Im not being sexist), was chosen over dozens of more qualified republican women for a cheap political stunt.

If John McCain wins this election it will reflect worse on the american people than when they elected Bush. The republicans are running on a hollow platform but the media circus is sucking up their whole fake story. If McCain wins, it will mean that americans dont give a shit about there trillions of dollars of debt, there unemployment, the fact that there is a massive gap between the rich and the poor, and the fact that there healthcare system is one of the most unfair in the world. It will show that all they care about is the fact that they personally like a "Hockey mom" and a "war hero," and dont care about the absolute destructive policies these two stand for.

As I saw Obama's rise in American politics, though I know he's not perfect, I was actually becoming slightly fond of what america stands for. But now as I see the country swooning over some arctic beauty queen from Alaska who is one of the most small-minded politicians I have ever seen, and showing, in the polls at least, that they are willing to put her a heartbeat away form the worlds largest military might, has made my impression of the US go even below those of Bush levels.

Please America, dont fall for this shit again.

[Elvenlord]

Many Americans don't care. They're too stupid to really see what's going on. All they do is follow the crowd.
And that's what American politics are like. Bashing the other side, while skimming over the issues.
What I find most people worry about is third world countries. It makes me wonder what they were taught. Most of you see just where America is going, yet they're worried about the starving children in Africa, but don't give a shit about the starving children in their own town.
....Sorry, that had little connection with the thread, but I just argued with someone about that
But that's how many think. Oh, let's solve all the world's problems, but let our own country go down the drain. Yay!

Please America, dont fall for this shit again.

Too late. As you said, Americans are stupid. Beyond belief.

[Romanul]

Americans are just plain stupid.

Hm,now that reminds me of 2 things:

1.Top Gear's show,once they were in America,in Florida,and wanted to get to Alabama,and got their asses kicked by some racists from an zone....

2.This quote:

Moscow is the best place on earth, It is so warm, so friendly, the people are so nice. Everybody knows everybody. In America, they don't even know their neighbour. If you want some salt or sugar, you go to the store. In Moscow, we go next door.

Well,this is the situation in the east,it happens to not give a damn about money,as we are all poor...

[Mastermind]

As Duke said, it was taken after their conference. I read in the paper the other day that this is what usually happens, so expect Obama to increase his ratings after his conference.

The Democratic National Convention was held the week before the Republican National Convention. I also don't think Obama is loosing his advantage, but he might be losing it.

[Ash]

You'd be surprised. This is just my estimate, based on life experiances, but at least 70% of voters are die-hard for their party. Bunch of idiots, us Americans are. The South, for example, are all likely to vote Republican, no matter what past history the party has. Obama seems to be the one likely to win, but I'm no where near 95% sure. Maybe 60%, 70% pushing it.

Let's not forget those wonderful who sid "I ain't never voted republican in my life but I won't vote for no nigger."

Do either of these politicians actually have any policies as to what they're going to do? I grant you there's no point in them having any but at least if they're going to talk bollocks, I'd much rather it be relevantly political bollocks.

[Vortigern]

I also don't think Obama is loosing his advantage, but he might be losing it.

He's Romanian, you can let him off a little spelling mistake.

Let's not forget those wonderful who said "I ain't never voted republican in my life but I won't vote for no nigger."

It really worries me that there are people out there who will do that. What do you think they would have done if the Republicans had gone for Condoleezza Rice? Black and female? Dear God, it's like she's the spawn of Satan himself.

Do either of these politicians actually have any policies as to what they're going to do? I grant you there's no point in them having any but at least if they're going to talk bollocks, I'd much rather it be relevantly political bollocks.

Yes, that's an interesting point. What are John McCain's policies? I don't think I've actually heard any...

Edited by Vortigern, 10 September 2008 - 11:45 AM.

[Phil]

Our local newspaper had a pretty cool caricature on that topic.
One could see a smiling McCain sitting at his desk, with a huge banner labelled "CHANGE" behind him. One of his election helpers stood in front of the desk and said something like: "Ok, this is the complete list of changes we are going to make. So far we have: 1. Exchange nameplate on the White House".

[Vortigern]

Swiss cartoons are awesome.

As of Wednesday, McCain had a 4% lead in the polls. This leaves me with a slightly uncomfortable sensation in my stomach. I honestly find it difficult to believe that America could elect him. He's incredibly shallow, seems to be running entirely on the twin facts that he once spent time in a PoW camp and his running mate's a woman, and has no policies to speak of. Whereas Obama has clearly stated policies produced to effect change, hopefully for the better. This should be a one-horse race.

[duke_Qa]

Yeah, McCain doesn't speak about his own skills, he cries about the lack of skills of his competitor. Obama might not have as much "experience" as that old routine-infected sage, but i believe that a man more open to new ways of thinking is what the USA needs today.

If anything, the US political system needs to get rid of the old skeletons and get some young and fresh minds into the powerstructure. I don't know how i would feel if McCain wins this election, but it would certainly be a depressing day for me and the western world.

[Phil]

The devastating effects it might have on the whole world left aside, it would certainly damage the relations between the US and Europe.

[Mathijs]

If McCain wins... then, well, I really hate generalisations but I think that even I'd have to give in to them.