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[Neutron4ever]

A Lucid Dream is when your dreaming and you know your dreaming, and are able to move around in your dream and such.
Have you ever had one?
Anyone know how to Lucid Dream?

I think i've only Lucid Dreamt about once in my entire life...and that involved me going to school -.-" (I know, worst thing to dream about right?)

Anyways, tell me if you've ever Lucid Dreamt and what it was about
I wonder if it'll be possible for me to visit Middle Earth some time

[Spectre]

I've never really tried it in fear of something going wrong. I'm a usually pessimistic and paranoid person, fearing that I will not succeed or will be fatally wounded and such if I try something risky.

Thing is, I have this odd thought that if I tried, i'd never wake up from it because of some freak accident, like my heart stopping, or such fatal events.

Yea, I'm pretty weird.

Edited by Durandel, 10 May 2009 - 01:30 AM.

[Mathijs]

Umm, well, I thought it was normal to be able to move and do what you want in your dream. Because that's what happens to me. Every time.

[Spectre]

Umm, well, I thought it was normal to be able to move and do what you want in your dream. Because that's what happens to me. Every time.

That's normally the case, but Lucid dreams are different, instead of it being 'just another dream', you don't feel asleep at all, you actually feel like the current dream you are in is happening real time and your in it.

I've heard that the reason Lucid dreams happen is because of the mind tricking the body into falling asleep by somehow telling it to do 'nothing and fall asleep', seemingly, it's difficult to make your body fall asleep without your mind interring your subconscious state and REM cycle, because you can't move a muscle or your body will stay 'awake'. People say that once you've done such for 15-20 minutes or so, you feel a very hard push, like it's crushing you, but somehow won't hurt. You'll seemingly not be able to move a muscle now, so getting out of it is impossible, which I think frightening. Once you finally fall asleep, for some reason, because of your muscles asleep and in full focus with your subconsciousness, you go in to some sort of state in which you don't feel asleep at all, instead, you feel wide awake and fully conscious in your dream. So then it's thought you can pretty much 'live out' your dream.

The part that I'm worried about is when your body becomes unmovable, and the part where the dream comes in. Since your body is absolutely keyed in with your mind's episodes into a different universe, my thoughts are that if you die in your dream (Which my dreams usually depict, that or epic, depressing, bone-chilling, or war-scene like sequences.) then you go with it. I believe if you die or are somewhere close in the dream, either any scenario of complication with your internal organs will happen (I.E. Heart shutdown, Brain stops working), or you'll die from shock while dreaming. Sorry for giving an entire lecture you didn't want or need, but I just felt there was no other way to tell it.

[some_weirdGuy]

lol @ dur being crazy and being scared of something impossible.

I've had lucid dreams. A while ago i found a site, i think there was a topic on revora and someone linked to it. I read up about it and really wanted to have a lucrid dream again (i had one before where i was sitting in class bored, then suddenly realised it was a dream and ran out of my room. The teacher screamed for me to come back, but i just yeleed back 'no, this is a dream' and kept running )

Anyway, i read up on lucid dreams on that site, and not long after i had a dream, and i was in a shopping center, and one of the shops signs had the word 'lucid' in it, and i suddenly realised i was dreaming, i then decided to go flying. For some reason though when i was flying i would fall back down again. good thing however was then when i hit the ground i sorta bumped and i was back up high again. Although im pretty sure after a while i went back to not realizing it was a dream anymore.

I've heard that the reason Lucid dreams happen is because of the mind tricking the body into falling asleep by somehow telling it to do 'nothing and fall asleep', seemingly, it's difficult to make your body fall asleep without your mind interring your subconscious state and REM cycle, because you can't move a muscle or your body will stay 'awake'. People say that once you've done such for 15-20 minutes or so, you feel a very hard push, like it's crushing you, but somehow won't hurt. You'll seemingly not be able to move a muscle now, so getting out of it is impossible, which I think frightening. Once you finally fall asleep, for some reason, because of your muscles asleep and in full focus with your subconsciousness, you go in to some sort of state in which you don't feel asleep at all, instead, you feel wide awake and fully conscious in your dream. So then it's thought you can pretty much 'live out' your dream.

Wrong. You go to sleep like normal then something makes you realise you are dreaming, then you are off. No push, no crushing. You are just dreaming and then you realise you are for whatever reason, then you can do what you want.

The part that I'm worried about is when your body becomes unmovable, and the part where the dream comes in. Since your body is absolutely keyed in with your mind's episodes into a different universe, my thoughts are that if you die in your dream (Which my dreams usually depict, that or epic, depressing, bone-chilling, or war-scene like sequences.) then you go with it. I believe if you die or are somewhere close in the dream, either any scenario of complication with your internal organs will happen (I.E. Heart shutdown, Brain stops working), or you'll die from shock while dreaming. Sorry for giving an entire lecture you didn't want or need, but I just felt there was no other way to tell it.

And now you are just being stupid, this isn't the matrix, the dream doesn't 'make it real' for you in real life. You cant die from a dream. You would wake up before stress levels/whatever effect you enough that it could cause harm. Also, if you are lucid then you can just chose not to die, duh.
about to splatter at the bottom of a cliff? how about i just fly
about to be shot? how about they give me a cake instead?
about to be burnt to death? how about... i just dont

Not that hard. The thing about people getting that falling feeling and if you hit bottom you die. Not true, as you would wake up before you ever did. the adrenalin wakes you up before it becomes to much and you get a heart attack or something stupid. Just like you cant die from holding your breath(doesn't include when you cant breath, just when you are choosing to hold it) even if you are able to will yourself into holding it long enough, you will pass out, and then start automatically breathing again.


So dur, don't be silly, your suppose to be mature, dont go having nonsensical child-like fears of things that can't happen.
On the site it said that ways you can bring up your chances of lucid dreams (although i have forgotten most of them) was to look at a clock or something, then look away, and look back, if it has changed you are dreaming. Other things were to at random times look at your hands and ask yourself if you are dreaming, if you do it often enough it will become automatic. If you are dreaming you will do your regular 'am i dreaming' hands check and realise you are. There was other stuff too, but i cant remember it.

lucid dreams are awesome. I wish i had another one.

[Spectre]

I'm not being silly or foolish, I have doubts about these things. It doesn't matter if I'm mature enough or not, nothing is exactly 'impossible', things can happen, being carefree can get you killed, or so I seem to think. I'm a strange individual, I can be secluded and totally enclosed and sadistic, or be mindless and carefree. I normally have no idea how to explain myself. I just have doubts and curiosity, everyone has them, just for different things.

EDIT: Although I could halt a dream before my death in the dream, I usually refrain from such. Usually my dreams end up either cliff-hangers or incomplete, never to be continued unless the thought reoccurs although.

Edited by Durandel, 10 May 2009 - 02:32 PM.

[some_weirdGuy]

Do you really need to going into the whole "nothing is impossible' thing.
Do i really need to say "so near impossible that it doesn't matter, like the different between;
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and 100"?

[Pasidon]

I wonder if it'll be possible for me to visit Middle Earth some time

Well Durandel... a dream is pretty much the illusion of interesting things, so I don't doubt you. Like me, I don't care how you dreamed it, just that I know you will never experience anything as interesting in your real life. Never dreamed a day or night personally, so I wouldn't know. I had a thought once... didn't last long.

[Vortigern]

I had a lucid dream once. Fucking weird, it was. There was a lighthouse which was also a castle, a monster thing, some shredded up tents full of corpses and even though I knew it was a dream there was nothing I could do about it, except run away from the monster thing. I have since resolved to leave off the lucid dreaming attempts.

[some_weirdGuy]

If you aren't controlling it then its not proper lucid. You are in control when it is a full lucid dream, meaning you can just make all those corpses and monsters go away, and then you can go flying or something.

Edited by some_weirdGuy, 10 May 2009 - 08:52 AM.

[Pasidon]

Yea. Therefor, as a person being lucid in a dream, if you still choose to be dreaming about corpses and monsters chases, I would recommend psychological help. I would know.

[Vortigern]

A lucid dream is simply one where you know that you are in a dream. The control is optional. I was entirely aware that I was dreaming, but there wasn't much I could do about it. I theorise that I was in the grip of my subconscious, which was trying very hard to explain something to me. I won't go into details, but I learned a valuable lesson from that dream.

[Allathar]

I used to have them a couple of years ago, and it was awesome. Then I had a period in which I didn't dream at all (or rather, didn't remember them), and lately I've been remembering my dreams again. They're really bizarre... Yet my subconscious also tells me something in them. Ye, it's weird.

[Puppeteer]

Allathar the exact same thing has been happening to me. Suddenly I can start remembering them, and feel as if I'm controlling a few.

[segwayrulz]

I cant really control my dreams, But I can remember what happened when I first wake up. Ive before though to myself "its still just a dream" when its seemed real. anyway you people wouldnt want to know my dreams

[Phil]

A lucid dream is simply one where you know that you are in a dream. The control is optional. I was entirely aware that I was dreaming, but there wasn't much I could do about it. I theorise that I was in the grip of my subconscious, which was trying very hard to explain something to me. I won't go into details, but I learned a valuable lesson from that dream.

While this is true strictly speaking, full lucidity usually comes with control. It's really just a matter of practice. In my first lucid dream I didn't have any control whatsoever in the other two I was able to control everything.

Lucid dreaming rocks. I still envy the people who can do that naturally (i.e. without effort or intention).

[Mathijs]

Well I guess I'm one of those people then. Every time I dream I realise that it's a dream, and although it can be a scary or strange dream, I am able to ''walk through it'' and interact with things, and change things around if I want to. I feel lucky.

[Black Temple Gaurdian]

Yes. They seem realistic and they often happen some time in the future, exactly as I dream it. Hows that for wierd?

[Pasidon]

In the Last King of Scotland, the President of... whatever that African nation was had a dream of his death. When he was captured by Muslims and killed, they say it was exactly how his dream played out. No one is sure, but his private journal was pretty accurate about the dream compared to what played out. Freaky...

[segwayrulz]

isnt that a movie?