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[olli]

Of course it's fake.


@2play. It's from an American show called Trading Spouses. If you look at the video in the topic "Bacon is good for me", that's basically what the show is about.

[Copaman]

If not being christian makes me dark sided, I hope to meet Vader at some point.

Thank you for this post. It's all I could think about in the first minute and a half.

"Join the dark side, Luke, and never have to deal with crazy screaming whale women again..."

[Beowulf]

@2play. It's from an American show called Trading Spouses. If you look at the video in the topic "Bacon is good for me", that's basically what the show is about.

Correction: Wife Swap. I had to.

[Bart]

Oh, that again. I saw a pretty bad one (as in, the situation, not the show) some time ago.
One family were super clean city people. Kids couldn't sit on the floor, everything was shiny, etc.
The other was on a farm somewhere 30 miles from the nearest town. They were completely self sustaining. They only ate raw food (meat and eggs too) and used home made toothpaste..yuk

[Ash]

Of course it's fake.

Fake or no, that kid's still a pimmelkopf and a backpfeifengesicht.

Oh, that again. I saw a pretty bad one (as in, the situation, not the show) some time ago.
One family were super clean city people. Kids couldn't sit on the floor, everything was shiny, etc.
The other was on a farm somewhere 30 miles from the nearest town. They were completely self sustaining. They only ate raw food (meat and eggs too) and used home made toothpaste..yuk. Hilarity ensued.

Fix'd.

[Archon]

She is the kind of person who gives a bad name to the friendly Christians out there who just want to go to church and help other people out every now and then.

Exactly.
And by the way, my mom once made me use homemade toothpaste for a while. Err...yeah.

[Mathijs]

Sorry Vort, but I don't believe in friendly Christians. I believe in phony-friendly Christians, sure, but deep down they're still the condescending holier-than-thou idiot who buys into all that bible bullshit.

You might say; gee Matias, you should at least show some kind of respect for them, it's their religion, it's their faith. You shouldn't judge. Well, I'm really sorry, but I cannot respect them and I think they're all morons. I say; fuck Christians, fuck the Jews, fuck the Muslims. I don't care much about hindus because they have yet to piss me off by appearing in mainstream news with their undoubtedly bullshit beliefs, and I kind of like buddhism because it's less moronic.

Edited by Matias, 29 November 2009 - 01:52 AM.

[mike_]

But... I thought you liked me?

[Elvenlord]

WRONG!

Anywho, yeah. Welcome to the 21st century.

[Beowulf]

Sorry Vort, but I don't believe in friendly Christians. I believe in phony-friendly Christians, sure, but deep down they're still the condescending holier-than-thou idiot who buys into all that bible bullshit.

That's not true, and you know. I actually do know very genuinely caring people who just happen to be Christian. I disagree with the rest of your post. Having faith does not make one a moron. There are those, like the zealot in the YouTube video, who are morons but not all of them.

In either case, snobby wannabe intellectualism does not make you any better either. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Jackass.

[Phil]

Religion is fine as long as it comes second to reason and remains a personal thing, i.e. no converting other people or expecting them to have the same faith as you.

[Archon]

Who says religion and reason can't co-exist? I think of myself as an reasonable, intelligent religious person and I see no contradiction there.

Also, Dark Lord of the Sith, religions are only religions because of their converts. Even atheism has proponents that try and convince you of the fact that "there is no God." To expect only "religious" people to not convert others is (a) discriminatory and (b) not going to happen. Conversion is an essential part of religion and will always be.

I am a Christian and I don't see any reason to keep my faith personal. I won't take the radical, fundamentalist approach and condemn those who don't share my views, and neither will I interject God and sin into every conversation. However, I just as much won't keep my faith packed up in a box and refuse to share it. You may not want to hear it, and I would never force you. But if anyone is willing to listen, I will without reservation share my beliefs and listen to theirs with an open mind.

P.S. Ironically Coincidentally, I'm at church using their computer to write this

Edited by Archon, 29 November 2009 - 04:58 PM.

[Vortigern]

P.P.S. That's not irony.

I've always said there are reasonable religious folk. There are several of them in my family. It's the extremists and the fundamentalists that give the rest a bad name. Like that crazy bitch in the video.

[Archon]

Generally, a P.S. (literally "post script") comes AFTER the main statement

P.S. That's not irony.

True, but it was the best word I could think of at the moment. "Coincidentally" is what I meant.

[Vortigern]

I am aware of what P.S. stands for. I guess I should have gone with P.P.S., but I didn't really care. I was far more concerned with your misuse of irony.

[Ash]

There's actually no assertion by atheists or scientists that creation and evolution are mutually exclusive. It's just the thrice-damned creationists who argue that they are. I'm the equal opposite of Archon. Don't expect me to keep my atheism to myself, particularly if a religious zealot comes by. I end up doing it simply to antagonise them as much as because I disagree so vehemently. Don't expect me to not question the beliefs either.

I actually have more respect for a religious person who has come to their conclusion after doing a lot of research rather than those who were born and spoonfed it and simply went along with it without having done any such research. Indoctrination isn't fair and isn't right. Kids end up being dragged to church without fully understanding or having a say in the matter. I believe that there is no restriction on the ability to know one's own mind. Sadly, our many governments often disagree.

[olli]

I think the main thing that got up this bitch's nose was that the other woman was "not Christian". Not the fact she didn't believe in "God", but the fact she was not Christian.

Even when the man said "she could be a Jew and believe in God", she out right said "I don't care, she's not Christian" just showing her absolute ignorance. In her mind every other person who is not Christian is dark sided and is going to hell.

Having a holier-than-thou attitude and looking down on people who aren't religious is one thing (even though it's still totally uncalled for and ignorant) but going to that level of hysteria because someone doesn't believe in the same religion should be a punishable offence. It's the same principle as suicide bombings in the name of a God.

I think it would be funny to let a Muslim in her house. That would be TV worth watching. Especially if they slept in her bed, touched her Bible and used her bedroom as a pray room to Allah.

[Allathar]

Fuck, that would be totally awesome reality television. Put a Jew, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Hinduist and Atheist in some radical or moderate versions of those in one house, and the one who stays the longest wins.

[mike_]

Buddhists and Hinduists are almost one and the same

[Phil]

Also, Dark Lord of the Sith, religions are only religions because of their converts. Even atheism has proponents that try and convince you of the fact that "there is no God." To expect only "religious" people to not convert others is (a) discriminatory and (b) not going to happen. Conversion is an essential part of religion and will always be.

I am a Christian and I don't see any reason to keep my faith personal. I won't take the radical, fundamentalist approach and condemn those who don't share my views, and neither will I interject God and sin into every conversation. However, I just as much won't keep my faith packed up in a box and refuse to share it. You may not want to hear it, and I would never force you. But if anyone is willing to listen, I will without reservation share my beliefs and listen to theirs with an open mind.

I believe you misunderstood me. Obviously people acquiring some faith ("converting") is an essential part of religion. However, it's absolutely not required that people out there come to me and tell me what I should believe in. The more absolute their stance, the worse.

There's an important distinction between a couple of guys sitting together and talking about their beliefs (that's cool) and people who actively go out and try to convert others, without them asking for it (not so cool). I went to all kinds of religion classes during school, all of it voluntarily and most of it was pretty interesting. Then again, we didn't have the teacher standing in front telling us "though shalt" and "though shalt not" but discussed different questions of ethics, philosophy and religion.
Generally speaking, I take more interest in the religious people who ask me questions than those who give me answers anyway.