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[Gen.Kenobi]

Hello fellas,

C&C 4 is comming...and with him awesome cinematics, campaings, but awfully bad gameplay. I want to propose for the comunity a mod for C&C 4 that not only restores the Original Command and Conquer Gameplay, but as well, re-writes the proposed end for CnC 4.



THE PROJECT
-Maybe the most remarkable comunity project.


The project is supposed to be a joint-project by all members of the CnC Comunity that hates C&C 4 gameplay and are whilling to show to EA that they don't have the right to screw the C&C Series. Even if they do, we modders will work togheter to fix it.

FEATURES

• The Return of Base Building
• The Return of Resource Gathering
• The Return of C&C
• Killing the Class System?
• New Factions?
• New Units?
• New Feel.

- The Return of Base Building

This is possible. If you play as the Defense Class you'll notice that they build their defenses using the Original CnC Metheod. The return of War Factories and Barracks may also be possible. If you capture the Muttants Hovel you'll be abble to train Muttant Units.


- The Return of Resource Gathering

This can be the hard part, but looking at the newly implemented "Tiberium Gathering Metheod by EA", this may be possible, by implementing the Tiberium Fields and the Haveresters.


- The Return of C&C

With these 2 aspects implemented, C&C will rise again as it should've been and we'll see the real Tiberium Twillight.


- Killing the Class System?

Shall we kill the class system? I would say, YES of course! But taking a look at the game start, you need to choose a class...wanting or not. I don't know if that will be possible to change or to mod. But if it is possible, you may be sure that we'll kill the class system.


- New Factions?

If that will be possible or not, we'll see when EA realeses the Mod SDK, but if it's possible, why not? But the comunity must say.


- New Units?

I'm prety sure that everyone isn't happy with EA current units at C&C 4...you see the AT-AT..ops, i mean the Mamooth, ops again...i mean the Mastodon. But...whatever...it's a comunity project. Suggest new units that fits into the historyline... the year is 2070.


- New Feel

The world has been contamined by the tiberium. I want to give that real feel. Like CnC 3. And for EA's sake, NO CARTONY AT ALL.

HELP?


Well, the comunity must say what they wish, but the comunity must also help. I don't know what your skills are, but we're accepting everyone. We need people, suggestions, and modders. I, Gen.Kenobi can't do this all alone. But any help would be greatly.

- 3d Modelers
- Texture Artists
- Map Makers
- History Writters
- Concept Artists

We need a full team.

Thanks for your time and please say something!

-Gen.Kenobi

Edited by Gen.Kenobi, 23 February 2010 - 02:53 PM.

[Starkku]

Bit too early I guess? How you're so sure that this pile of crap known as C&C4 is even going to have proper mod support? If there's not going to be a SDK of any sort then people who are expecting to be able to mod C&C4 are pretty much screwed over, just like this plan of yours.

Edited by Starkku, 23 February 2010 - 03:03 PM.

[Gen.Kenobi]

As far as i'm aware, EA knows that what keep games alive are mods. They would ruin C&C 4 even more if they does not realeses the SDK. And i think that they will.

[Speeder]

Yeah, they would release an SDK I guess, except for the fact that most of C&C4 is getting fired after the release. Also, someone said that there will be no WB for C&C4 so it kinda kills the interest at the beginning.

Edited by Speeder, 23 February 2010 - 04:51 PM.

[Pepzi]

@Gen.Kenobi

Seeing as C&C3 was a pile of trash to begin with, you are praising something that was already shitty.

re-writes the proposed end for CnC 4

What exactly do you mean by this? Some specific plot concept or event?

They never even released the KW SDK, so why bother with this?

I'd like to see a project that aims to bring a more 'classic' C&C 3, one that was true to Tiberian Sun and the series in general. The closest thing to this I've seen is a TS mod called Tiberian Odyssey (visually only, the written core aspects of the story they have I'm not in agreement with.).

[Speeder]

Yes Pepzi, this was shitty. That was shitty. Kenobi likes C&C3, so what? I like C&C4, so what?

Everyone has own opinion, that's one of the reasons people come up with various projects like this one..

As for KW SDK, isn't that guy from ModDB still working on his project for Kane's Wrath?

Edited by Speeder, 23 February 2010 - 06:16 PM.

[Pepzi]

Yes Pepzi, this was shitty. That was shitty. Kenobi likes C&C3, so what? I like C&C4, so what?

Everyone has own opinion, that's one of the reasons people come up with various projects like this one..

As for KW SDK, isn't that guy from ModDB still working on his project for Kane's Wrath?

True. Sorry for the negativity.

[Gen.Kenobi]

This is just a concept. Also, CnC3 wasn't good...but comparing to CnC 4 was wayy better.

What exactly do you mean by this? Some specific plot concept or event?

If you see well, EA never links a game to each other. Kane was dead in TiBSun, now ressurected at CnC3...what can we expect about CnC4? He'll be an alien of some sorta. I'm planning to give a true link. A true End to the Tiberium Series or not.

I'd like to see a project that aims to bring a more 'classic' C&C 3, one that was true to Tiberian Sun and the series in general. The closest thing to this I've seen is a TS mod called Tiberian Odyssey (visually only, the written core aspects of the story they have I'm not in agreement with.).

That's why it's a comunity project. Do you want a TiBSun remake? Well, i can tell you that if this mod come out, i'll realese the source code for people to mod CnC 4 as they wish.

But for now i need help ideas and concepts. And this is not the frist CnC 4 project. Take a look.

[Golan]

So, what do you actually plan to do? Y'know, besides making everything generally plain better.

By the way, this is just me speaking as a Gens and CNC3 modder, but I highly doubt that CNC4 will allow you to change much in the way of actual meta elements like classes, win conditions and resources to name but a few elements. But alas, it's still good to see that someone is at least trying.

[Nighthawk]

I'd have to agree with Golan. It's a nice idea, but still very premature given that we have no idea how much (if any) moddability C&C4 will have.

[OmegaBolt]

The worst people to make a new C&C game would be the fans. It'd be so shit. Look at EALA games (except at least theyve got experience), a community game would be even worse filled with lame units, Yuri vs CABAL and other moronic stuff.

[Pepzi]

Do you want a TiBSun remake?

I don't see how this project could be sensibly sailed off, but from my part in general I would want CONTINUITY, NOT a "TS-Clone". There's simply no organised team or talent to take this anywhere. It's good however to see you taking initiative to get people thinking.

Edited by Pepzi, 24 February 2010 - 04:40 PM.

[Apollo]

There may not be any Mod SDK for this to start off with given EALA's poor situation and it could be case of vital modules no longer working too assuming it got released.
Getting WB for basic game wouldn't be too interesting unless liked making symmetrical maps to keep the current gameplay style working.

So i don't see this very viable.

[Gen.Kenobi]

Yeah...maybe that was too premature....