18 replies to this topic

[Ouranos]

Having finished (for the moment) my series of Arnor Models based on Games Workshop Ruin of Arnor, I wanted to know what good modeller and skinner think of them. So here they are:

Edited by Ouranos, 16 March 2010 - 05:42 PM.

[Gfire]

The chest on the HA is a little shiny, but that might just be the renderer.

They look very nice in game. I saw some screens of them.

[Lauri]

I personally never liked the Christmas theme GW made for the soldiers of Arnor..

But you did an alright job on them. Well, if you darken and desaturate the green abit that is, it's way to bright now
Guess the same can be said about the armor parts aswell..
The head-band or whatever it's called... It sucks, but that's partly because there doesn't seem to be any effort put into them, which brings me to the other part, it's a sucky idea by GW from the start

[Gfire]

I think the brightness might be the W3D viewer. One version of it makes everything look brighter. I think they look pretty good in game.

[drogoth232]

I like it... Oh and Ouranos the archers still have the green boxes but the exfiretorchseq.tga still shows... Also why doesnt the archers arrow cause fire damage? Or show fire when it is shot?

[Ouranos]

The arrows fired are not Fire arrows" because you haven't added the update code in the Arnor Archer (Have a look at Gondor Arhce)
Send me a picture of the Green Arrow and I willtry to fix it.

[Arasan]

I like it, but the skins need more details.
The green is not so good, chose a other colour for the skins.

[drogoth232]

Arrow Error

This should be it. See the archers have green boxes. Also that the arrows dont have fire on it. I fixed it a little so that the fire sequence tga shows but the green box is still there. I cant get an update pic until later.

What would the update be?

Edited by drogoth232, 17 March 2010 - 07:19 PM.

[NewErr]

Desaturate a bit that green , add some more shadows and highlights , maybe some texturing , some rough parts and it would be better . And that band ... not fit with the helmet , try something else ( like some wings ) .

[Ouranos]

I am going to keep the headband because the Model is based of Games Workshop's ones for arnor:

[Lauri]

They're based on them, they're not them... Which is obvious in some places
You don't have to keep the headband, but if you don't like it yourself you should remove them

[Arasan]

I don't like these workshop models.
They do not look like they have to look.

[drogoth232]

Hey Ouranos any luck on the green box problem?

[Ouranos]

I can't access the picture so i can't help you. Try to upload it elsewere.

[NewErr]

I don't like these workshop models.
They do not look like they have to look.

True , some of them are too off.

If you want to keep the headband make it look more like cloth and make the helmet smooth , yours is pointy.

[drogoth232]

The Error Again the firetorchseq.tga can be seen, but when the arrow is fired there is no fire effect or any thing (I dont know there error that is happening there).

[Ouranos]

Have you added a house color to the firearrows ?
TO have the Arnor Archer use firre arrows you need to go toweapon.ini and modify GondorArcherBow and GondorArcherBowBombard to

CODE

;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Weapon GondorArcherBow
AttackRange = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_RANGE

RangeBonusMinHeight = 30 ; = 10
RangeBonus = 1
RangeBonusPerFoot = #MULTIPLY( BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_RANGE .003 )

LeechRangeWeapon = Yes
WeaponSpeed = 321 ; dist/sec
MinWeaponSpeed = 241
MaxWeaponSpeed = 481 ; dist/sec Upper limit on scaling, when attacking past nominal "max" range
FireFX = FX_RohanArcherBowWeapon
ScaleWeaponSpeed = Yes ; Used for lob weapons, scales speed proportional to range
HitPercentage = 100 ;When this weapon is used it will hit exactly 50% of the time.
ScatterRadius = 16.0 ;When this weapon misses it can randomly miss by as much as this distance.

AcceptableAimDelta = 20 ; prevent twitchy reaiming in horde on horde
DelayBetweenShots = 0
PreAttackDelay = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_PREATTACKDELAY
PreAttackRandomAmount = 200
PreAttackType = PER_POSITION
FiringDuration = 0

ClipSize = 1
AutoReloadsClip = Yes
AutoReloadWhenIdle = 1
ClipReloadTime = Min:BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MIN Max:BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MAX
ContinuousFireOne = 0
ContinuousFireCoast = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MAX

AntiAirborneVehicle = Yes
AntiAirborneMonster = Yes
HitPassengerPercentage = 20%
CanBeDodged = Yes ; Will check for a DodgePercent on the target to have a second chance at failing HitPercent

ProjectileNugget ; Default arrow
ProjectileTemplateName = GondorArcherArrow
WarheadTemplateName = GondorArcherBowWarhead
ForbiddenUpgradeNames = Upgrade_GondorFireArrows
End
ProjectileNugget ; Fire arrow available through fire upgrade
ProjectileTemplateName = GondorArcherFireArrow
WarheadTemplateName = GondorArcherBowFireWarhead
RequiredUpgradeNames = Upgrade_GondorFireArrows OR Upgrade_ArnorFireArrows //<-----Add the Arnor upgrade
End

End

Weapon GondorArcherBowBombard
AttackRange = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOMBARD_MAXRANGE
MinimumAttackRange = #SUBTRACT( BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOMBARD_MINRANGE 75 )

RangeBonusMinHeight = 30 ; = 10
RangeBonus = 1
RangeBonusPerFoot = #MULTIPLY( BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOMBARD_MAXRANGE .003 )

LeechRangeWeapon = Yes
WeaponSpeed = 321 ; dist/sec
MinWeaponSpeed = 241
MaxWeaponSpeed = 481 ; dist/sec Upper limit on scaling, when attacking past nominal "max" range
FireFX = FX_RohanArcherBowWeapon
ScaleWeaponSpeed = Yes ; Used for lob weapons, scales speed proportional to range
HitPercentage = 0 ; Always miss and get scattered
ScatterRadius = BFA_ARCHER_BOMBARD_SCATTER_RADIUS ;When this weapon misses it can randomly miss by as much as this distance.

AcceptableAimDelta = 20 ; prevent twitchy reaiming in horde on horde
DelayBetweenShots = 0
PreAttackDelay = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_PREATTACKDELAY
PreAttackRandomAmount = 200
PreAttackType = PER_POSITION
FiringDuration = 0

ClipSize = 1
AutoReloadsClip = Yes
AutoReloadWhenIdle = 1
ClipReloadTime = Min:BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MIN Max:BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MAX
ContinuousFireOne = 0
ContinuousFireCoast = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MAX

AntiAirborneVehicle = Yes
AntiAirborneMonster = Yes
HitPassengerPercentage = 20%
CanBeDodged = Yes ; Will check for a DodgePercent on the target to have a second chance at failing HitPercent

NoVictimNeeded = Yes ; For use with Bombard
BombardType = Yes

ProjectileNugget ; Default arrow
ProjectileTemplateName = GondorArcherArrowBombard
WarheadTemplateName = GondorArcherBowBombardWarhead
ForbiddenUpgradeNames = Upgrade_GondorFireArrows
End
ProjectileNugget ; Fire arrow available through fire upgrade
ProjectileTemplateName = GondorArcherFireArrowBombard
WarheadTemplateName = GondorArcherBowBombardFireWarhead
RequiredUpgradeNames = Upgrade_GondorFireArrows OR Upgrade_ArnorFireArrows //<-----Add the Arnor upgrade
End
End

[Arasan]

On the nose is a yellow part of the helmet, right?
Make it more golden.

[drogoth232]

Have you added a house color to the firearrows ?
TO have the Arnor Archer use firre arrows you need to go toweapon.ini and modify GondorArcherBow and GondorArcherBowBombard to

CODE

;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Weapon GondorArcherBow
AttackRange = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_RANGE

RangeBonusMinHeight = 30 ; = 10
RangeBonus = 1
RangeBonusPerFoot = #MULTIPLY( BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_RANGE .003 )

LeechRangeWeapon = Yes
WeaponSpeed = 321 ; dist/sec
MinWeaponSpeed = 241
MaxWeaponSpeed = 481 ; dist/sec Upper limit on scaling, when attacking past nominal "max" range
FireFX = FX_RohanArcherBowWeapon
ScaleWeaponSpeed = Yes ; Used for lob weapons, scales speed proportional to range
HitPercentage = 100 ;When this weapon is used it will hit exactly 50% of the time.
ScatterRadius = 16.0 ;When this weapon misses it can randomly miss by as much as this distance.

AcceptableAimDelta = 20 ; prevent twitchy reaiming in horde on horde
DelayBetweenShots = 0
PreAttackDelay = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_PREATTACKDELAY
PreAttackRandomAmount = 200
PreAttackType = PER_POSITION
FiringDuration = 0

ClipSize = 1
AutoReloadsClip = Yes
AutoReloadWhenIdle = 1
ClipReloadTime = Min:BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MIN Max:BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MAX
ContinuousFireOne = 0
ContinuousFireCoast = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MAX

AntiAirborneVehicle = Yes
AntiAirborneMonster = Yes
HitPassengerPercentage = 20%
CanBeDodged = Yes ; Will check for a DodgePercent on the target to have a second chance at failing HitPercent

ProjectileNugget ; Default arrow
ProjectileTemplateName = GondorArcherArrow
WarheadTemplateName = GondorArcherBowWarhead
ForbiddenUpgradeNames = Upgrade_GondorFireArrows
End
ProjectileNugget ; Fire arrow available through fire upgrade
ProjectileTemplateName = GondorArcherFireArrow
WarheadTemplateName = GondorArcherBowFireWarhead
RequiredUpgradeNames = Upgrade_GondorFireArrows OR Upgrade_ArnorFireArrows //<-----Add the Arnor upgrade
End

End

Weapon GondorArcherBowBombard
AttackRange = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOMBARD_MAXRANGE
MinimumAttackRange = #SUBTRACT( BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOMBARD_MINRANGE 75 )

RangeBonusMinHeight = 30 ; = 10
RangeBonus = 1
RangeBonusPerFoot = #MULTIPLY( BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOMBARD_MAXRANGE .003 )

LeechRangeWeapon = Yes
WeaponSpeed = 321 ; dist/sec
MinWeaponSpeed = 241
MaxWeaponSpeed = 481 ; dist/sec Upper limit on scaling, when attacking past nominal "max" range
FireFX = FX_RohanArcherBowWeapon
ScaleWeaponSpeed = Yes ; Used for lob weapons, scales speed proportional to range
HitPercentage = 0 ; Always miss and get scattered
ScatterRadius = BFA_ARCHER_BOMBARD_SCATTER_RADIUS ;When this weapon misses it can randomly miss by as much as this distance.

AcceptableAimDelta = 20 ; prevent twitchy reaiming in horde on horde
DelayBetweenShots = 0
PreAttackDelay = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_PREATTACKDELAY
PreAttackRandomAmount = 200
PreAttackType = PER_POSITION
FiringDuration = 0

ClipSize = 1
AutoReloadsClip = Yes
AutoReloadWhenIdle = 1
ClipReloadTime = Min:BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MIN Max:BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MAX
ContinuousFireOne = 0
ContinuousFireCoast = BFA_GONDOR_ARCHER_BOW_RELOADTIME_MAX

AntiAirborneVehicle = Yes
AntiAirborneMonster = Yes
HitPassengerPercentage = 20%
CanBeDodged = Yes ; Will check for a DodgePercent on the target to have a second chance at failing HitPercent

NoVictimNeeded = Yes ; For use with Bombard
BombardType = Yes

ProjectileNugget ; Default arrow
ProjectileTemplateName = GondorArcherArrowBombard
WarheadTemplateName = GondorArcherBowBombardWarhead
ForbiddenUpgradeNames = Upgrade_GondorFireArrows
End
ProjectileNugget ; Fire arrow available through fire upgrade
ProjectileTemplateName = GondorArcherFireArrowBombard
WarheadTemplateName = GondorArcherBowBombardFireWarhead
RequiredUpgradeNames = Upgrade_GondorFireArrows OR Upgrade_ArnorFireArrows //<-----Add the Arnor upgrade
End
End