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[Nazgûl]

SEE brings you, the Erebor Guard! 

These sturdy guys mean business and will replace the dreadfully ugly "Warhammer" style Guardians and the "cartoony" Phalanx...

 

Edited by Nazgûl, 14 May 2013 - 10:46 PM.

[MattTheLegoman]

Something completely different from Valaquenta. Let me find the words for describing this beauty in a quote from the Lord of the Rings: "Fully armed and filthy" ;D

[njm1983]

^ what he said

[Rider of Rohan]

I have no words for this, expect awesome, fantastic, & masterpiece. And I wish they were in my mod XD !!!!

Edited by Rider of Rohan, 14 May 2013 - 11:24 PM.

[Irenë Hawnetyne]

Mother of God ...

[Bofur]

Well, they do look awesome! But what's the Erebor tech tree gonna look like? I've kinda lost track :/

[Crusader344]

Great

[Nazgûl]

Roster

 

- Khazad Guard would remain as the limited elite troops.

- Erebor Guardians (this model), replacing the dreadful "Warhammer" models.

- Erebor Phalanx (this model, using spears), replacing the vanilla phalanx model.

- Iron Hills Archers (using Mathijas model), replacing Axe Throwers (that will remain as Battle Wagon crew option only).

- Iron Hills Warriors (also Mathijas model, wielding swords, axes and shields), replacing the Dale Swordsmen as early game skirmish troops.

- Dale Archers will be summons and Battle Wagon crew only.

[Dark Lord]

you're not going to put dwarves without helmet, battle of Azanulbizar type?

 

[Lauri]

There's like 220 years between the Battle of Azanulbizar and the War of the Ring.

 

Besides, the guys in the movie have helmets. And that's still 60 years before the War of the Ring...

[Dark Lord]

I do not understand your point.

 

 

if you see the movie the dwarves in the war in the Battle of Azanulbizar go infantry with and without a helmet, especially veteran units do not wear helmets.

[Rider of Rohan]

I think he means they were limited in terms of armor itself at the Battle of Azanulbizar. They lost their homeland and with it their awesome forges. By the time of the War of the Ring, the Dwarves had everything running smoothly in Erebor so they were "properly" armored. Correct me if I'm wrong guys.

[Nazgûl]

Yes, these guys will have randomized gear, and some will be without helmets =)

[MattTheLegoman]

Games Workshop has the Grim Hammer Captains helmetless. But I like having the randomised gear. ;D

Edited by MattTheLegoman, 15 May 2013 - 10:19 PM.

[Lauri]

If you look at the movie again, you'll see the dwarves of Erebor in the start. They all wear a full armour set, so they have helmets. As Rider of Rohan points out, this is because they have their forges in Erebor set up and are doing well.

The SEE mod is set during the War of the Ring, which is 220 years after the Battle of Azanulbizar, and 60 years after the events of The Hobbit takes place. It's safe to assume that they are making armour again, with helmets.

Besides, I watched the Battle in the movie just now. Pretty much "all" the dwarves wear a helmet, with the exception of the leaders and a couple of others (it's a battle, people can lose their helmets).

 

I don't know if I like the idea of random gear for them to be honest. They are very uniform, like Gondor, and I think they look best when they're "identical". I often find that a odd randomization happens when you suddenly have one guy without a helmet or shield. Different helmets, different shields = cool. No helmet, no shield = not so much. Same with capes. But I can wait until I see them in-game to make a conclusion, I'm merely talking from my own experience.

[Dark Lord]

this is relative, one thing is infantry units, and other veteran units, in the case of the movie. (can not determine who is dropped or not a helmet in battle)

 

 

My opinion is that you can add, veteran units such as Games Workshop,  armies in all of history and even in the series of movies lord of the rings and hobbit there are divisions in the armies

 

 

DO NOT change the infantry which is another thing

 

[NewErr]

Remove the helmet and you will suffer the consequences .

[njm1983]

Lol. Im with lauri. I prefer the uniform look of dwarven soldiers. Helmets should stay on. Weapons uniform across the battalion. However the iron hills units would be better suited for randomization.

[MattTheLegoman]

Okay, then I vote no helmet. I wasn't sure what Valaquenta had made. And Lauri brings up some really good points.

 

But I am still interested in the spear and the hammer. ;D

[Dark Lord]

haha, that difficult, Erebor soldiers have to wear helmets, this model is beautiful,

 

But you can do other elite model without a helmet and two hammers, as young Dwalin