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[shayla]

Hi.i'm new here.i've played lots of diffrent mods but i think this one is goning to be the best mod of bfm2 and rotwk ever.

i have a suggestion.as you know in both lore and the movies the Smaug is a great hero.tolkien has written alot about it and 1 of 5 movies of peter jackson was in his title.i think for the best mod which is your mod, you can have a great smaug (i mean more than fire).if you could create him a great hero that would be really nice of you.and there is a great model in : Edain mod 3.8 and Warloth mod 3,that if you didn't have time maybe you can import them.that model can toggle between fly and ground mode , it can make fire and hypnothise and....

but afterall it was just a suggestion.you're the boss and we love your mod anyway.

[Nazgûl]

Thanks, but I can't just "import" models from other mods. That would make the community send a lynch mod to get me, at least virtually  Seriously though, one has to respect other peoples work, so that would be stealing. Smaug will be in SEE, but it's highly doubtful that he'd be a recruitable hero, rather then a spell book summon that just fly by. He's far too powerful as a hero. If he would be more than a temporary flyby summon, he'd be the Ring Hero of Rhûn faction, possibly. But still, Smaug is huge and extremely powerful so I'm not sure about that. We'll see when we get to Rhûn faction (which will have a dragon theme).

[MattTheLegoman]

This is Edain mod's Smaug.

 

This is the texture I was working on, same vanilla model as the one they used. However - for smaug to be truly the greatest dragon there will need to be a new 3d model. =p

[Hugyfew]

Is that our Smaug, that new 3D model?

[MattTheLegoman]

No - it is the same model that was in the game - Collector's Edition most likely.

And no, not unless Nazgul wants the texture will it be in SEE. =p (And I'm sure he can do better - although he may not have the time, and we aren't working on the Rhun faction at the moment.) =p

[shayla]

I think i couldn't explain myself well.as you said he is too strong to be a recriutable hero so i think he should be summoned too.i was sayin that bcause it is too great, it would be really great for your perfect mod if you could give him more than a flyby.i mean full control like summoned dragon,balrog,tombombodil and etc.again it's just a suggestion

[Mathijs]

I think a summoned Smaug as a counterpart to the existing Balrog summon would be pretty neat.

[Nazgûl]

Yeah, we will have Smaug and I will make a movie "accurate" Weta model as a SEE special (open for trading off course), when we get to Rhun faction. So he won't be in the upcpoming release of SEE featuring only Goblins and Dwarves. This model could use the Drogoth SKL and anims, but if possible, we could make him land and use the SUmmoned Dragon SKL.

Edited by Nazgûl, 19 June 2014 - 05:40 PM.

[shayla]

You're better than Peter Jackson

[Nazgûl]

Lol... blasphemy!   Thanks dude, but PJ is the reason for this mod, so don't compare me to this God amongst mean (well at least filmmakers) please.  I'm merely trying to make "his" world playable in this ancient game.

 

I have studied the Smaug model carefully, and I think I can pull it off, even though I will most likely make it simplified around the head with all them sharp horns sticking out. Would be a nightmare to UV map that.

 

Another problem is that Smaug don't have front legs/arms. Those are his wings, so it will require some thought on how to rig him, if he's gonna be walkable on land.

Edited by Nazgûl, 23 June 2014 - 12:25 AM.

[njm1983]

Don't think it'll be possible to have him walk on land, not unless someone makes custom animations. Using the drogoth animations is the best way in my humble opinion. I can't recall there being any dragon that uses wings as his forelimbs in game.

[Nazgûl]

You're right... All dragons in BFME do have front legs. I just checked them. That means that if we're gonna make him land and walk (whch is possible but requires hefty coding), I have to edit the Weta design to have legs, which I don't want to. If we just let him fly (like Drogoth), I can model him without legs, and we can still rig him to Drogoth SKL. Anyway... Smaug will be in Rhûn faction, so this is far away still

[njm1983]

Sweet, lets atleast make him like the balrog when the time comes, Id rather get some time to anhilate the enemy controlling him rather than him sweeping across the battlefield for a single strike. itll far more enjoyable to command him and hear his awesome booming voice.

[MattTheLegoman]

Step into the light. Don't be shy.

[shayla]

ok,FYI i'm not a dude

[Nazgûl]

It says "Gender: Male". Besides, both guys and gals can be dudes

 

@NJM: I agree. Smaug is defenitely a strong caracter. His immensive power is rather unbalanced, but as a Ring Hero for Rhûn I guess he's not that muvh worse than the devastating Balrog  (I wonder who would win btw)

[pedrodavidpinto]

Galadriel with the ring wins against the Balrog. Ahahahhaha.

 

You can also do the Bard the Bowman's hero with the power of the Black Arrow that can kill the Smaug.

 

What do you think Nazgûl?

[Nazgûl]

YEah, Bard will have a "Kill Smaug" power indeed ;p

[pedrodavidpinto]

Awesome.

 

Thanks. Good job.

[ThorinOakenshield2]

Sorry to bump an old topic, but I have a question: is it possible that Smaug (when he gets his WETA model in SEE) may both fly and walk, and while walking he may use his wings instead of front legs? I think it is possible, as BOTTA mod did him without front legs and used his wings this way.